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Dave Werden (ASCAP)
Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
Adams Artist (Adams E3)
Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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Sir, make that five. There's one more on the mouthpiece leadpipe.
Wonder if there's any at the main tuning slide or further down the 3rd valve slide"Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"
Euph: Yamaha 642II Neo - 千歌音
Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL
https://soundcloud.com/ashsparkle_chika
https://www.youtube.com/user/AshTSparkle/
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Originally posted by ChristianeSparkle View PostSir, make that five. There's one more on the mouthpiece leadpipe.Dave Werden (ASCAP)
Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
Adams Artist (Adams E3)
Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
YouTube: dwerden
Facebook: davewerden
Twitter: davewerden
Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium
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Wonder how many we can put on a horn & how many folds of improvement we can see with each additional plate"Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"
Euph: Yamaha 642II Neo - 千歌音
Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL
https://soundcloud.com/ashsparkle_chika
https://www.youtube.com/user/AshTSparkle/
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Ahhhh lefreQues.....they are always good for a bit of a debate.
I've tried lefreQues and found them to be a placibo effect. When you first put them on, your brain is expecting there to be a difference, meaning there's a good chance you're inherently biased to think the plates are enhancing the sound of your instrument. After using them for several weeks then taking them off, I found no difference in sound, slotting, etc. Steven Mead was promoting them for a while, but he has since removed them from his Besson.
Now....there are some who swear by lefreQues....and to those who believe it makes a difference, more power to them. They are INSANELY expensive though (the set of four in the picture above is probably a $700 investment)...and I highly recommend anyone considering them to borrow them for an extended period of time if possible first.James Kircoff
Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Adams E3 Custom .60mm yellow brass bell w/ K&G 3.5)
Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE956 w/ Denis Wick 6BY)
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Yeah just the costs of the things alone is an initial big nope for me.
For the rest... When I tried them (yeeeeaaaars ago) I found the changes to be for the worse, actually. Goes to show that you can't just slap on anything and expect it to be fine.Euphoniums
2008 Willson 2960TA Celebration
1979 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign (Round Stamp)
Mouthpiece: Denis Wick SM4
Baritone
1975 Besson New Standard
Mouthpiece: Courtois 10
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Well, I confess that I still use one over my mpc connection to its receiver. The effects are subtle... like the 'b' in subtle I guess. I didn't hear a big difference myself but my wife said she could. It sounded a little louder with the lefreque plate on.Rick Floyd
Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc
"Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches
El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)​
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I have been using them for some years and I was convinced that some benefits gave it: last week I washed my Prestige and I have not repositioned the plates: I don't feel the difference. I found some photos of someone who turned their euphonium into an indecent thing with plates: how can anyone believe that such a thing could somehow improve the sound? Mah....
2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.
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Originally posted by franz View Post...I found some photos of someone who turned their euphonium into an indecent thing with plates: how can anyone believe that such a thing could somehow improve the sound?Dave Werden (ASCAP)
Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
Adams Artist (Adams E3)
Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
YouTube: dwerden
Facebook: davewerden
Twitter: davewerden
Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium
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Originally posted by JakeGuilbo View PostSteven Mead claims that his new gold Prestige was mfg in such a way that he doesn't need the lefreque plates"Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"
Euph: Yamaha 642II Neo - 千歌音
Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL
https://soundcloud.com/ashsparkle_chika
https://www.youtube.com/user/AshTSparkle/
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Originally posted by JakeGuilbo View PostSteven Mead claims that his new gold Prestige was mfg in such a way that he doesn't need the lefreque platesJames Kircoff
Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Adams E3 Custom .60mm yellow brass bell w/ K&G 3.5)
Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE956 w/ Denis Wick 6BY)
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Originally posted by jkircoff View PostI suspect Besson wasn't terribly keen on Mead putting lefreque plates on their premiere euphoniums in the first place. Mead is a Besson artist, and the use of lefreques suggests their 2052s don't produce the best possible sound out of the factory -- not necessarily the best look for business.
I wonder if, instead of getting a euphonium first and then attaching plates to it, anyone has tried buying a set of plates first and then attaching a euphonium to them. Sometimes a difference in perspective can make all the difference. I'm thinking that ideally once you have your maximal set of plates, then you should be able to attach any junk euphonium to them, and voila!Gary Merrill
Wessex EEb Bass tuba (DW 3XL or 2XL)
Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
Amati Oval Euph (DE 104, Euph J, J6 euph)
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba (with std US receiver), Kelly 25
Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K10/112/14 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Olds #3)
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Update:
I put the plates back because with them, even if they don't seem to give significant improvements in sound, they make the ugly beast of the high C# be hit more easily.2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.
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