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    lefreQue Times 4

    And the preliminary award for the most lefreQue plates on one euphonium goes to... Jan Schulze:

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    (Got this from Instagram) - Anyone else want to enter the competition?
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
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    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
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    Sir, make that five. There's one more on the mouthpiece leadpipe.

    Wonder if there's any at the main tuning slide or further down the 3rd valve slide
    "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. And always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euphonium)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianeSparkle View Post
    Sir, make that five. There's one more on the mouthpiece leadpipe.
    Right you are! Not sure how I missed that one. BTW, the video doesn't show other areas of the horn where more plates might be hidden.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

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    Wonder how many we can put on a horn & how many folds of improvement we can see with each additional plate
    "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. And always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euphonium)"

    Euphonium: JP 274 MKII - 千歌
    Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL
    Gone but not forgotten: Yamaha EP100 - Euphy (May you serve the children well in the hands of your new owner. Thank you for the past 15 years)

    https://soundcloud.com/ashsparkle_chika
    https://www.youtube.com/user/AshTSparkle/

  5. Ahhhh lefreQues.....they are always good for a bit of a debate.

    I've tried lefreQues and found them to be a placibo effect. When you first put them on, your brain is expecting there to be a difference, meaning there's a good chance you're inherently biased to think the plates are enhancing the sound of your instrument. After using them for several weeks then taking them off, I found no difference in sound, slotting, etc. Steven Mead was promoting them for a while, but he has since removed them from his Besson.

    Now....there are some who swear by lefreQues....and to those who believe it makes a difference, more power to them. They are INSANELY expensive though (the set of four in the picture above is probably a $700 investment)...and I highly recommend anyone considering them to borrow them for an extended period of time if possible first.
    James Kircoff
    Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Sterling Virtuoso 1065HS and Adams E1 Custom w/ Parker 4G Houser)
    Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE956 w/ Denis Wick 6BY) and 10 piece ensemble (Getzen 1052FD w/ Bach 1G)

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    Yeah just the costs of the things alone is an initial big nope for me.

    For the rest... When I tried them (yeeeeaaaars ago) I found the changes to be for the worse, actually. Goes to show that you can't just slap on anything and expect it to be fine.
    Willson 2960TA Celebration
    1979 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign (Globe Stamp)
    Mouthpiece: Denis Wick 5AL

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    They remind me of those 'save gasoline' mileage improver doodads.

    If you bought them all, and installed them, your tank would overflow every time you drove your car...

    DG
    3 notes and the truth.

    1966 Besson 181 highly modified New Standard, early model Wick 4AL
    1918 Hawkes & Son euph 3&1 original
    1917 Conn C/D/Eb mellophone original
    1915 York Bb tenorhorn original, Bach 5GS

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    Steven Mead claims that his new gold Prestige was mfg in such a way that he doesn't need the lefreque plates
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    Well, I confess that I still use one over my mpc connection to its receiver. The effects are subtle... like the 'b' in subtle I guess. I didn't hear a big difference myself but my wife said she could. It sounded a little louder with the lefreque plate on.
    Rick Floyd
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    I have been using them for some years and I was convinced that some benefits gave it: last week I washed my Prestige and I have not repositioned the plates: I don't feel the difference. I found some photos of someone who turned their euphonium into an indecent thing with plates: how can anyone believe that such a thing could somehow improve the sound? Mah....

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    Besson Prestige 2052,3D K&G mouthpiece;JP373 baritone,T4C K&G mouthpiece;Bach 42GO trombone,T4C K&G mouthpiece

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