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Thread: FS: Besson New Standard 4-Valve Compensating Euphonium - Satin Silver

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    Thumbs up FS: Besson New Standard 4-Valve Compensating Euphonium - Satin Silver

    The condition looks very good for a horn of this vintage. You can expect the classic Besson sound and ease of playing. It appears a gig bag is included.

    Starting bid is $1,500. I think it could go $1k above that and still be a good value. A sample in this condition is hard to find, so don't wait if you are looking for a horn like this!

    ITEM SOLD FOR $2,150

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/163768726901

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    Last edited by davewerden; 07-15-2019 at 09:24 AM.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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  2. The serial number for this horn (551178) indicates this is definitely a 1971-1974 instrument, likely 1972 or 1973 but definitely not 1950s. It could well be a large shank horn from the factory. I cannot tell by looking at the two Schilke mouthpieces included with the horn (a 51D and a 57) and there are no close up pictures of the receiver. If a medium shank, it originally would have come with a Besson 10 mouthpiece and a tenor to medium shank adapter.

    Assuming the valves are in good shape, this is a nice horn up to $2,500. I would prefer it to a 1950s horn since there is a good chance the older horn could be a converted high pitch horn.

    Doug
    Sterling Virtuoso 1052HS & Adams E3 Prototype 0.70 Top Sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1050HS baritone
    New England Brass Band
    Winchendon Winds/Townsend Military Band

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    Does the pitting on picture #3 worry you?
    Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL

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    Looks more like a New Standard to me. Imperials had 'regular' valve buttons if I remember correctly.

    DG
    We occasionally drink from the fountain of madness...

    1966 Besson 181 highly modified New Standard, early model Wick 4AL
    1918 Hawkes & Son euph 3&1 original
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Does the pitting on picture #3 worry you?
    No, it's pretty standard when I horn has been well used.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
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    Thanks for the two corrections above. I took out the bogus date and modified the name of the horn.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    YouTube: dwerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    Twitter: davewerden
    Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

  7. Quote Originally Posted by daruby View Post
    Assuming the valves are in good shape
    Just an FYI, I asked the ebay seller about valve condition and whether he would add pictures of the valves. The response I got:

    "The technician said there was some plating peeling on the pistons, but rebuilding the valves was not recommended at this time. "

  8. I have a friend in one of my bands who I recommend this instrument to, and he had the winning bid. He was borrowing a nearly identical horn from a friend and wanted one for himself, so this was a natural fit especially with its price point. I look forward to hearing him play it!
    James Kircoff
    Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Adams E3 Custom .60mm yellow brass bell w/ Parker 4G Houser)
    Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE956 w/ Denis Wick 6BY) and 10 piece ensemble (Getzen 1052FD bass trombone w/ Bach 1G)

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