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Thread: FS: Besson New Standard 4-Valve Compensating Euphonium - Satin Silver

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    Thumbs up FS: Besson New Standard 4-Valve Compensating Euphonium - Satin Silver

    The condition looks very good for a horn of this vintage. You can expect the classic Besson sound and ease of playing. It appears a gig bag is included.

    Starting bid is $1,500. I think it could go $1k above that and still be a good value. A sample in this condition is hard to find, so don't wait if you are looking for a horn like this!

    ITEM SOLD FOR $2,150

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/163768726901

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    Last edited by davewerden; 07-15-2019 at 08:24 AM.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
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  2. The serial number for this horn (551178) indicates this is definitely a 1971-1974 instrument, likely 1972 or 1973 but definitely not 1950s. It could well be a large shank horn from the factory. I cannot tell by looking at the two Schilke mouthpieces included with the horn (a 51D and a 57) and there are no close up pictures of the receiver. If a medium shank, it originally would have come with a Besson 10 mouthpiece and a tenor to medium shank adapter.

    Assuming the valves are in good shape, this is a nice horn up to $2,500. I would prefer it to a 1950s horn since there is a good chance the older horn could be a converted high pitch horn.

    Doug
    Sterling Virtuoso 1052HS & Adams E3 Prototype 0.70 Top Sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1050HS baritone & Conn 24I/25I euphonium
    New England Brass Band/Metropolitan Wind Symphony
    Winchendon Winds/Townsend Military Band

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    Does the pitting on picture #3 worry you?
    Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL

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    Looks more like a New Standard to me. Imperials had 'regular' valve buttons if I remember correctly.

    DG
    3 notes and the truth.

    1966 Besson 181 highly modified New Standard, Wick 4AL
    1918 Hawkes & Son euph 3&1 original
    1917 Conn C/D/Eb mellophone original
    1915 York Bb tenorhorn original, Bach 5GS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    Does the pitting on picture #3 worry you?
    No, it's pretty standard when I horn has been well used.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

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    Thanks for the two corrections above. I took out the bogus date and modified the name of the horn.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

  7. Quote Originally Posted by daruby View Post
    Assuming the valves are in good shape
    Just an FYI, I asked the ebay seller about valve condition and whether he would add pictures of the valves. The response I got:

    "The technician said there was some plating peeling on the pistons, but rebuilding the valves was not recommended at this time. "

  8. I have a friend in one of my bands who I recommend this instrument to, and he had the winning bid. He was borrowing a nearly identical horn from a friend and wanted one for himself, so this was a natural fit especially with its price point. I look forward to hearing him play it!
    James Kircoff
    Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Sterling Virtuoso 1065HS and Adams E1 Custom w/ Parker 4G Houser)
    Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE956 w/ Denis Wick 6BY) and 10 piece ensemble (Getzen 1052FD w/ Bach 1G)

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