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    HEFT- Which contemporary, available-in-the-USA euphoniums are the heftiest?

    I have now played the Cool Wind Euphonium for about 6 months, taken lessons with a teacher whom I find perfect for what I want to learn, and am playing in a delightful band of amateurs, pros, music teachers, high school students, and some very pleasant folks who have not spoken much about why they’re there, but seem to enjoy it, as I certainly do.

    My original intention was to get to tuba via starting on euphonium, but I find that reasons for continuing on euphonium are unexpectedly emerging, and habitually reading here has been an education about brass, especially low brass, that I didn’t even know I had missed until now.

    After nearly buying an Eb tuba but realizing that learning a second set of fingerings would be a major frustration, I began to consider what I could continue to do with euphonium that would be musically satisfying to me without having to deal with the complications of finding a really good sounding tuba that I could also lift and transport. Having played almost all of the best of the wind ensemble repertoire that was available until I stopped playing bass clarinet seriously in 1970, this isn’t as easy as it might sound.

    So a question here- I know and love the Miraphone sound, and I know it is a heavy weight instrument. Are there any other “hefty” euphoniums that will bridge my love of low gutsy sounds with the color and tone of the euphonium I’ve always admired? Something between euphonium/tenor tuba in the same instrument? Or something else I haven’t thought of at all? Hoping to find something that can last me for the rest of my musical life.

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    If you like a big sound like the Miraphone, you might also consider an Adams E2. Its sound is large, dark, and dense.
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    I think the answers are Miraphone, Adams E2, and Hirsbrunner.
    Sean Kissane
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    You could add the Willson 2950/2960 to the hefty list.

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    I’ve not played the Adams E2 more than a few minutes but I would vote for the Miraphone 5050 for “heft”. Big dark tone with good intonation.
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    Hello Ann, at the recent ITEC 2019 conference I had the opportunity of fiddling with a number of euphos, a few of which, though quite different in tone and construction, I really liked.... including the Adams E3 Sterling bell, E2, and even more so the E1 with 0.70mm yellow brass bell for its amazing sparkling resonance... Besson Prestige for its silky and warm power... But the one which took my breath away, even with my rudimentary chops, was the Miraphone M5050, for its glorious tone, flexibility of color, and dynamic power... Besides, oddly enough, for my rudimentary chops, it happened to be the easiest to speak.

    Have you contacted Tuba exchange in Durham (NC)? According to their website, they might have M5050 in stock:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ann reid View Post

    After nearly buying an Eb tuba but realizing that learning a second set of fingerings would be a major frustration, ...
    Just to add some more frustration ...

    I have never found learning the extra set of fingerings to be problematic, and I'm pretty sure that you would be able to manage it in quick order and with little frustration. For one thing, you'll be surprised at the degree of commonality in the fingerings. But really, I think you'd find that in a week or so of reasonable practice you'd have things pretty well nailed. It's kind of like learning Russian. People are put off because the alphabet is SO different. But it's really not, and once you're over that minor hump, the rest is straightforward.

    Also, I think that you'd discover that switching between the Bb euph fingerings and the Eb tuba fingerings would not present a problem to you.

    Just something to keep in mind for the future.

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