Lowest Euphonium writing for band you’ve ever seen?

[jaxstrad]

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[DaveBj]

I don't know that ever seen a pedal note in an actual band piece. Lot of them in solos, particularly in cadenzas, but that's a whole 'nother matter. The lowest that I can recall in an actual band piece was in a published transcription of Liszt's "Les Preludes" that we did in high school back in the early '60s. Low C (above pedal Bb), in a 16th-note run. Not east on a non-comp four-valve.

[RickF]

First piece that comes to mind is Holst Suite no. 2 in 'F' which gets down to low concert 'C' (4-1-3) and lots of low 'F's (4). Since it's public domain you can look at your part here:
Scroll down to pg 31 for euphonium part

[jkircoff]

Dragon Rhyme by Chen Yi has the euphonium part going down to C2.

[jaxstrad]

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[mbrooke]

What is the lowest note you’ve ever seen in a transcription or original band piece for euphonium? I’m talking about pedal range and writing that looks like a mistake. Thanks!

Grainger's Childrens March goes down to a few pedal B flat eight notes at the end. And at pp to boot!

Mike

[Simes]

I don’t think you’ll get much lower than this....



And then this....

[davewerden]

Pedal D concert - I love it!

[mbrooke]

Pedal D concert - I love it!

Maybe my treble clef is bad, but isn't the low note just a a low concert D? The 8va would mean an optional octave up, not down.

Mike

[davewerden]

Maybe my treble clef is bad, but isn't the low note just a a low concert D? The 8va would mean an optional octave up, not down.

It is confusing! First, your idea makes sense because of the context. I may have jumped to a conclusion. However, very often 8va is placed below a passage to indicate an octave down. 8vb is clearer when used. (Then there is an argument that either should really say 7va/7vb because you are moving up or down by 7 notes!)

[mbrooke]

It is confusing! First, your idea makes sense because of the context. I may have jumped to a conclusion. However, very often 8va is placed below a passage to indicate an octave down. 8vb is clearer when used. (Then there is an argument that either should really say 7va/7vb because you are moving up or down by 7 notes!)

Thanks Dave. I had never heard that about 8va below staff vs above.

Mike

[bbocaner]

Ohh, Revelation is one of my absolute favorite brass band pieces.

[Simes]

It’s definitely an octave lower. My understanding of the dotted line is under the stave to indicate down and above to reverse that. The second euphonium part has a lot of straight metal muted pedals, and the 1st euph is largely open. One of my favourite Wilby pieces, it’s properly monumental, as you’d expect with a title like that!

If memory serves I believe the piece starts with a pianissimo pedal Ab (treble) for BBb bass. There are also pedals for the cornets.