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  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    #16
    Here is an X-Ray from airport security, showing an Adams with the sterling silver bell. It's pretty easy to see its extra density!

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    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
    YouTube: dwerden
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    • daruby
      Moderator
      • Apr 2006
      • 2217

      #17
      I am corrected. Way cool X-ray!
      Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
      Concord Band
      Winchendon Winds
      Townsend Military Band

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      • spkissane
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 226

        #18
        Maybe it's because trends always circle back, maybe it's because you so seldom see an all-gold/yellow/"brass" colored professional-level horn, but I personally think the all-gold looks a little more striking in this case. That rich, deep gold color is really nice.
        Sean Kissane
        Low Brass Specialist, Paige's Music
        Principal Euphonium, Indianapolis Brass Choir
        Principal Euphonium, Crossroads Brass Band

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        • adrian_quince
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2015
          • 277

          #19
          Originally posted by bbocaner View Post
          Tinted lacquer reminds me too much of american instruments from the 1960s and 1970s.
          I'm with you on that one.
          Adrian L. Quince
          Composer, Conductor, Euphoniumist
          www.adrianquince.com

          Kanstul 976 - SM4U

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          • cochranme
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 292

            #20
            Count me in for the yellow brass. Classic and understated suits me more.
            Martin Cochran
            Adams Performing Artist
            mceuph75@gmail.com

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            • John Morgan
              Moderator
              • Apr 2014
              • 1884

              #21
              Originally posted by cochranme View Post
              Count me in for the yellow brass. Classic and understated suits me more.
              Your avatar seems to paint another picture...
              John Morgan
              The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
              Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
              1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
              Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
              Year Round Except Summer:
              Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
              KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
              Summer Only:
              Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
              Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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              • Sara Hood
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 309

                #22
                This!

                Originally posted by cochranme View Post
                Count me in for the yellow brass. Classic and understated suits me more.
                "Classic" Yes, that is the word I wanted for it. Lacquer and silver plate are the classic ways to finish a horn. Stick with one or the other. The alternative looks patchwork. Not to say that a brushed/satin finish doesn't help to pull the patchwork off. Just that simpler is better, in my opinion. Often less expensive too.

                You open a whole other can of worms if you introduce how it sounds into the decision. But there too, you should shoot for the "classic" sound.

                I like the sound of that - classic. Which of course is going to mean different things to different people.... (laugh)

                - Sara
                Baritone - 3 Valve, Compensating, JinBao JBBR1240

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                • lzajmom
                  Member
                  • Feb 2019
                  • 84

                  #23
                  Between the two, I prefer the monochromatic option, even if I don't love the yellow gold. What I'd really like, aesthetically speaking, is brushed brass body and bell. It kinda looks like the rose gold that's so trendy right now.

                  Originally posted by John Morgan View Post
                  They don't call me Dick Tracy for nothing. Actually, they don't call me Dick Tracy at all.
                  I don't mean to go fangirl on you (REALLY), but this made me laugh out loud for way longer than I should admit.
                  Wessex Dolce

                  "Suppose we have only dreamed, or made up, all those things -- trees and grass and sun and moon and stars and Aslan himself. Suppose we have. Then all I can say is that, in that case, the made-up things seem a good deal more important than the real ones." - Puddleglum in "The Silver Chair"

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                  • cochranme
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 292

                    #24
                    Originally posted by John Morgan View Post
                    Your avatar seems to paint another picture...
                    Well, that’s just.............accurate.
                    Martin Cochran
                    Adams Performing Artist
                    mceuph75@gmail.com

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                    • mbrooke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 401

                      #25
                      Originally posted by cochranme View Post
                      Count me in for the yellow brass. Classic and understated suits me more.
                      But, we all know that Dave goes for the Bling!

                      Mike

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                      • davewerden
                        Administrator
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 11136

                        #26
                        Here are a couple more photos, with a more "real" comparison. I wanted to see what they look like as I am holding them.

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                        Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                        Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                        Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                        Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                        YouTube: dwerden
                        Facebook: davewerden
                        Twitter: davewerden
                        Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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                        • John Morgan
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1884

                          #27
                          Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                          Here are a couple more photos, with a more "real" comparison. I wanted to see what they look like as I am holding them.
                          Well, now, let's look at this comparison. The instruments are both very nice looking. And you, Dave, look snappy as ever, however, you have elected to wear clothing that does not have very intense colors, sort of washed out looking colors. So, with what you are wearing, the satin-gold finish seems to provide a very nice contrast. But, if you were wearing something like a dark blue shirt, I think the brushed brass and sterling silver bell would look smashing. And upon further inspection, I find the satin-gold to be a little out of tune, whereas my favorite, the brushed brass and sterling silver bell is right on.
                          John Morgan
                          The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                          Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                          1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                          Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                          Year Round Except Summer:
                          Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                          KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                          Summer Only:
                          Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                          Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                          • jkircoff
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 213

                            #28
                            They are both beautiful instruments. I prefer the multi-colored version though -- it's an eye catcher done in a tasteful manner.

                            Steven Mead also plays a gold-plated euphonium, and I think it's a bit on the gaudy side. The brushed finish Adams has on its gold euphonium is a better look.
                            James Kircoff
                            Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Adams E3 Custom .60mm yellow brass bell w/ K&G 3.5)
                            Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE956 w/ Denis Wick 6BY)

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                            • daruby
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2217

                              #29
                              Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                              Here are a couple more photos, with a more "real" comparison. I wanted to see what they look like as I am holding them.
                              Dave,

                              I love them both. Which plays better? That really is your decision. In your pictures above, I prefer the gold lacquer. It makes the horn "look warmer" like a euphonium should. I have seen several Wilson's with gold lacquer and/or gold plating on the inside of the bell. They are really beautiful.

                              Go for it!

                              Doug
                              Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
                              Concord Band
                              Winchendon Winds
                              Townsend Military Band

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                              • davewerden
                                Administrator
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 11136

                                #30
                                OK, let's stir things up a bit more! Here is a video with audio clips comparing the two horns. A couple are with piano and a couple are without. The horns are labeled A and B in the video.

                                Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                                Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                                Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                                Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                                YouTube: dwerden
                                Facebook: davewerden
                                Twitter: davewerden
                                Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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