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  • John Morgan
    Moderator
    • Apr 2014
    • 1884

    #16
    Well, I suppose if you like the sound and the effect. I just never have liked muting a euphonium or a tuba. Gary is quite right with the tuba. Our last orchestra concert called for a muted tuba in one part for about 2 seconds. Hardly worth the effort, and the guy playing tuba had a terrible time getting the mute in and out. Just to play a couple notes that he could have just as easily played softly without a mute. He could have really used a "mute installer" to help him as Gary suggested. Mutes just don't do anything for me. I listened to the piece, Barry, and while I admit there are many different sounds, I just don't go for them. I know this is probably just me, but I can't warm up to a mute in a euphonium.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
    1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    • DutchEupho
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 231

      #17
      Check out wallace mutes. They are my favorite by far!
      Euphonium: Adams E3 Custom Series (SS Bell)
      Trombone: Benge 175F

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      • iiipopes
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 347

        #18
        To go with gmerrill's comment about drilling the mute is the cork. Adjusting the thickness of the cork is essential to balancing tone and tuning, and is a trial-and-error exercise that could take several tries to get the player's preference locked in.

        Another purpose of a mute: When you have multiple euphs in community band, but no bassoon: have one player use a mute to cover the bassoon part when it is not doubling other low woodwinds or brass.

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        • ghmerrill
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 2382

          #19
          Originally posted by iiipopes View Post

          Another purpose of a mute: When you have multiple euphs in community band, but no bassoon: have one player use a mute to cover the bassoon part when it is not doubling other low woodwinds or brass.
          Yeah, I've done that with a mute in the bass trombone. Whether it's reasonable depends a lot on the nature of the bassoon passage, of course.
          Gary Merrill
          Wessex EEb Bass tuba (DW 3XL or 2XL)
          Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
          Amati Oval Euph (DE 104, Euph J, J6 euph)
          1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba (with std US receiver), Kelly 25
          Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K10/112/14 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
          1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Olds #3)

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          • RickF
            Moderator
            • Jan 2006
            • 3869

            #20
            Well... looks like I’ll have to use a mute at our next two concerts. We’re playing Mark Camphouse’ piece, “A Movement for Rosa” — a tribute to Rosa Parks experience in 1955. The last few measures calls for a muted euph playing concert ‘E’ very softly for few measures. I brought it to rehearsal last night. After we finished I asked the MD if it’s really necessary since I think it might disturb the effective ending having me lift that silver colored ‘spittoon’ looking thing and inserting it in my bell. I noticed a number of band members looking so I’m sure the audience will notice. It’s really tight on stage with about 80 in the band. We’ll have a grand piano there too (for Rhapsody in Blue) which will add to the cramped space. The MD still wants it used. Maybe I can do it less obtrusively while the horn’s on my lap. We’ll see.

            We’re playing this piece at the request of a long-time member (euphonium player) and former president of the band. He passed away a couple of months ago from pancreatic cancer. Cancer really blows.

            U.S. Air Force Band, “A Movement for Rosa”:
            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycitqgtwdk0
            Rick Floyd
            Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

            "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
            Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

            El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
            The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
            Festive Overture(Dmitri Shostakovich)

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            • jakewillis
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 141

              #21
              Matt Jackfert wrote a super cool piece called Appalachian Impressions. In the beginning of the second movement, the Euphonium is muted with multi phonics and its one of the coolest sounds I’ve heard from a Euphonium.

              https://m.soundcloud.com/mattjack/ap...snowy-thurmond

              I actually didn’t think it was only euphonium and piano when I first heard it.
              I play a Wessex Prague
              aka “Pocket Kaiser”
              Stofer Geib Mouthpiece

              My Son plays
              Mack Brass Compensating Euphonium
              Wessex Dolce Compensating Euphonium
              Doug Elliott EUPH SN103, I, I9

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