King 1173 baritone

[hyperbolica]

I think I know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask anyway, to confirm or correct.

Is anyone familiar with the King / HN White 1173 4v baritone "Improved model"? It appears to be a small bore baritone, which I take to mean it's really stuffy with no low range to speak of. Is that correct? Are there redeeming qualities?

[davewerden]

I don't know that model, but from the photos I'm guessing it is/was a typical American baritone/euphonium. The 11" bell is one sign. I think it would probably respond pretty well if the valves and body of the horn are in good shape.

[iiipopes]

Link:
http://www.hnwhite.com/Euphoniums%20...s.htm#Improved

It appears to be nothing more than H. N. White marketing of the 20's and 30's; no essential differences from the King American instruments we all know about.

[hyperbolica]

Well, as a follow up, I did buy the instrument. It was billed as a compensating euph, but it turned out not to be a compensator at all. So its going back. It has a nice sound, but over all its dreadfully out of tune. It has some nice features, like a water key before the 1st valve. I was hoping, just didn't work out. I never did find the model number on the horn at all.