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Thread: My New Geneva Oldroyd Cardinal Euphonium

  1. #21
    I'm still loving it - I tried a ton of horns side-by-side with it at ITEC and I didn't find one I liked the sound of better (for me, at least). After playing the horn for a while now, I feel like the intonation quirks are a little similar to a Besson Sovereign - the first-valve Eb above the staff runs a bit sharp, while the one in the staff runs the tiniest bit flat. Easily correctable, and a far cry from the painfully flat concert A my Willson had. In hindsight I should've asked Dave if he'd wanted to give it a spin for the sake of his intonation chart.

    As for the "buzz" people have reported hearing. I may have found the culprit. The Geneva's slides all seem to be a little on the loose side out of the factory. This is especially apparent in the main (trigger) slide. I began to hear it as the initial grease wore off and immediately started freaking out, putting my hand on every surface possible. I found when I held onto the main slide, there was no buzz. Applied a thick grease to the slide and it stopped. For a while. Eventually had Martin Wilk tighten the slide up a bit, and the issue was cleared right up.
    Last edited by spkissane; 06-13-2019 at 01:41 PM.
    Sean Kissane
    Low Brass Specialist, Paige's Music
    Principal Euphonium, Indianapolis Brass Choir
    Principal Euphonium, Crossroads Brass Band

  2. #22
    Hi Sean
    hope your still loving your new euph
    I quite fancy revisiting Geneva .....i used to have a Symphony which was the best sound and projection of any euph ive had..... just need to sell one or two instruments first.
    Now the symphony was yellow brass, ive trailed thru you posts but couldnt find if you said which bell option you went for..... all red, all nickel, red with nickel flare or other.
    many thanks
    Dave
    Current Euphs:
    York Eminence
    Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign (Round Stamp/ Globe)
    Boosey & Hawkes Imperial
    Plus an attic of old classics in various states of repair!
    Previous Euphs:

    Besson Prestige (German)
    Geneva Symphony
    Wilson 2900 with Eminence leadpipe
    Sterling Virtuoso (300 mm heavy red brass bell)
    Cortios 167 II
    'Gob Iron': Doug Elliott Euph 104 I 9s (plus a few others!)


  3. #23
    It's all-nickel. I'm not sure if the other options are this light-weight. BUT BE CAREFUL if you have this type of bell. It dings extremely easily. That said, it sounds fantastic, so take the good with the bad, etc.
    Sean Kissane
    Low Brass Specialist, Paige's Music
    Principal Euphonium, Indianapolis Brass Choir
    Principal Euphonium, Crossroads Brass Band

  4. Hey spkissane, could you please send me Joe Johnson's email? Also if you do not mind sharing, how much did you pay for you geneva euphonium?

  5. #25
    All things being equal, nickel-silver should be harder and less prone to dents than any other type of brass. But it's possible that they make it with thinner stock, or that it gets less work hardening in the production process.
    --
    Barry

  6. #26
    Trust me, this horn's bell is anything but dent resistant. From what I understand it's a very thin gauge.

    I'll PM you, Euphism.
    Sean Kissane
    Low Brass Specialist, Paige's Music
    Principal Euphonium, Indianapolis Brass Choir
    Principal Euphonium, Crossroads Brass Band

  7. Email?

    Would you provide his email, please? I'm very interested in obtaining that same model and I would rather not have to travel to Europe.

  8. E-Mailk Adresse from Joe Johnson

    Hallo
    Would you please send me the e-mail from Joe Johnson

    Kind regards

    Daniel Mägli

    daniel.maegli@heilsarmee.ch

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Mägli View Post
    Hallo
    Would you please send me the e-mail from Joe Johnson

    Kind regards

    Daniel Mägli

    daniel.maegli@heilsarmee.ch
    NOTE: in this situation, it is good practice to send Daniel's email to Joe and let Joe decide if he wants to be in touch.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
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  10. #30
    It's worth noting that there is now USA distribution for Geneva that is more easily reachable:

    https://genevabandroomusa.com/

    They are pretty responsive.

    Mike
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

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