Second Valve Tuning Slide

[bdawley81]

My new Adams E1's second valve tuning slide is very slick/loose. After playing around 10 minutes the slide slips down enough to come loose and half way out. Solutions/fixes??? Thank you!

[EuphGuy]

This can be easily remedied by a good brass tech in a couple of minutes. One or both of the inner slides will need to be slightly expanded or “swaged” so that it fits tighter in the outer slide. I had this very problem on my second valve slide....after it popped out and fell to the floor on two separate performances, I took matters into my own hands and did a diy job here at home (I don’t recommend doing that)....problem fixed, but now it fits a bit tighter than I would like. A good tech would be able to make it a perfect fit.

[daruby]

+1 what euphguy said. In the mean time use Hetman supersticky slide grease (#8)

[ghmerrill]

One or both of the inner slides will need to be slightly expanded or “swaged” so that it fits tighter in the outer slide.

Yes. However, I should like to take this opportunity (in the spirit of what some may consider excess pedantry) to praise EuphGuy for his use of the term "swaged". Be aware that if you use this term in communicating with brass repair technicians they may not understand you, or they may "correct" you to use the term "swedge" rather than "swage".

Alas, this is a disturbing sign of the degradation of our language by the communal forces of darkness. I have no idea how "swedge" crept into the language (possibly merely as a creeping Bubba) However, even the "authorities" have succumbed: Merriam-Webster now regards "swedge" as a "spelling variant" of "swage" -- which is seems strikingly close to saying that "beer" is a spelling variant of "bear". But I digress (or digressed a couple of sentences ago).

Anyhow, EuphGuy is to be applauded for not falling prey to the now almost universal usage of "swedge" among the brass technician crowd.

[daruby]

Anyhow, EuphGuy is to be applauded for not falling prey to the now almost universal usage of "swedge" among the brass technician crowd.

I will "swedge" that!

[ghmerrill]

I'll take that as a spelling variant of "sledge".

[bbocaner]

uh oh... sounds like somebody there went overboard after I complained that all their tuning slides were too tight!

[ghmerrill]

And once they paid attention to you, then they did a full review and decided to implement the industry standard for 2nd valve slides.

[Euphearted]

I'll take that as a spelling variant of "sledge".

And I will take "sledge" as a spelling variant of "sludge," which can inhibit tuning slides from falling out.

[bbocaner]

+1 what euphguy said. In the mean time use Hetman supersticky slide grease (#8)

I think you mean hetman #9 (used to be called #7P)

#8 isn't really all that heavier than #7, it's just a different formulation.

[RickF]

Hmm? My experience with Hetman 8 is it's much thicker than Hetman 7 and works great on my M5050 2nd slide. It comes in a 10 cc little jar vs a squeeze applicator like the 7. I can only use it on that short 2nd slide as it's too thick for any other slide.

[bdawley81]

I will "swedge" that!

Lol, you all are hilarious...

[bbocaner]

Hmm? My experience with Hetman 8 is it's much thicker than Hetman 7 and works great on my M5050 2nd slide. It comes in a 10 cc little jar vs a squeeze applicator like the 7. I can only use it on that short 2nd slide as it's too thick for any other slide.

Hmm. That's not the case with the one I have here! I think maybe they've gone through a few different iterations of the products in the past several years?

[bdawley81]

Thanks for the help. I had a great tech look at it yesterday. All good now!