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  • John Morgan
    Moderator
    • Apr 2014
    • 1885

    #31
    Originally posted by Snorlax View Post
    John Morgan...I was born in Brooklyn, grew up in Queens, and I STILL LOVE THE YANKEES!!!!
    Excellent, also.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
    1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    • John Morgan
      Moderator
      • Apr 2014
      • 1885

      #32
      Originally posted by John Morgan View Post
      ...And I got to see Miel from Adams Musical Instruments again. He is such a nice fellow and I enjoy visiting with him. Too bad he doesn't have something to sell me, I already have my Adams E3.
      I spoke entirely too soon!!! On my second or third visit to the Adams display and Miel, I somehow got to talking about trombones. Miel said that he just happened to have one at ITEC, unbeknownst to me. He broke it out, and I gave it a go. Uh-oh, big time. I mean I should not have tried this horn. I immediately loved it. It is a tenor with F attachment. It is a very, very free blowing horn. And responsive. And so, so easy to play. When I tried the low Eb with trigger, I got the BEST LOW Eb from a trombone that I have ever had, not even close. The triggered Eb sounded identically as free blowing as any note without the trigger. Not one iota of stuffiness. Totally amazing. Miel said to me, "John, don't you want to take this home?" To make things worse, Linda was there and hearing all my playing on the horn and hearing Miel, and said to me "Get it. It is the best sounding trombone I have ever heard you play on." Well, I did not buy it. On that day. I had to go back to the hotel that night and then spend another couple days pondering this. I came back on Saturday, just about when the Adams display was being packed up as this was the last day of the conference. Tried the horn again, and this time coughed up my credit card and walked out with an Adams TB1 tenor trombone. I love it. I should have known that I could not escape this conference without buying something. Just wasn't thinking trombone. I will write more later on the conference and our experiences there.
      John Morgan
      The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
      Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
      1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
      Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
      Year Round Except Summer:
      Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
      KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
      Summer Only:
      Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
      Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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      • RickF
        Moderator
        • Jan 2006
        • 3871

        #33
        Congrats John on your new Adams T-bone! Sounds great.

        It’s nice to have a wife who says, “Get it, it’s the best sounding trombone I’ve heard you play on”.
        Rick Floyd
        Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

        "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
        Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

        El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
        The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
        Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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        • John the Theologian
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 245

          #34
          I played the Adams T bone as well and It blew very nicely. I didn't run the F attachment through its paces as you did., though. I also played the Adams E1 and E2 and both were very nice euphoniums. Both slotted the high G very well that is a bit tricky on my Mack Brass horn.


          My wife is very kind about my brass hobby, but I never had her say to go ahead and buy a $3300 dollar horn as quickly as yours did, though.
          Last edited by John the Theologian; 06-02-2019, 07:23 PM. Reason: punctuation left out

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          • John Morgan
            Moderator
            • Apr 2014
            • 1885

            #35
            Originally posted by RickF View Post
            Congrats John on your new Adams T-bone! Sounds great.

            It’s nice to have a wife who says, “Get it, it’s the best sounding trombone I’ve heard you play on”.
            Rick - no doubt about having such a super wife. She has been this way forever. Am I lucky or what??
            John Morgan
            The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
            Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
            1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
            Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
            Year Round Except Summer:
            Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
            KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
            Summer Only:
            Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
            Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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            • John Morgan
              Moderator
              • Apr 2014
              • 1885

              #36
              Originally posted by John the Theologian View Post
              I played the Adams T bone as well and It blew very nicely. I didn't run the F attachment through its paces as you did., though. I also played the Adams E1 and E2 and both were very nice euphoniums. Both slotted the high G very well that is a bit tricky on my Mack Brass horn.


              My wife is very kind about my brass hobby, but I never had her say to go ahead and buy a $3300 dollar horn as quickly as yours did, though.
              Well, I am lucky for sure to have such a supportive wife, but also, I have a nice tenor trombone at home that will be going up for sale shortly. That was part of the grand scheme of getting this new horn. Contrary to what I would prefer or any public opinion, I am not made of money.
              John Morgan
              The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
              Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
              1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
              Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
              Year Round Except Summer:
              Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
              KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
              Summer Only:
              Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
              Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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              • dsurkin
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 526

                #37
                Originally posted by John Morgan View Post
                Well, I am lucky for sure to have such a supportive wife, but also, I have a nice tenor trombone at home that will be going up for sale shortly. That was part of the grand scheme of getting this new horn. Contrary to what I would prefer or any public opinion, I am not made of money.
                John - does this mean you liked it more than your Edwards trombone?
                Dean L. Surkin
                Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
                Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
                Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
                See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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                • John Morgan
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1885

                  #38
                  Originally posted by dsurkin View Post
                  John - does this mean you liked it more than your Edwards trombone?
                  Dean - yes, it does mean that. I really like the Edwards, so this is no put down for the Edwards trombone. But this Adams trombone is amazing. A really nice sound, easy to play, and I mean easy. Very responsive horn. The valve on the Adams was, according to Miel, designed in house at Adams (with Miel having a big hand in that), then manufactured in Germany (I think, not 100% positive, but I think that is right). Have not seen one of these before. "Open Flow" valve is what it is called. The trombone is an "open, short wrap" horn meaning the F section does not stick way out past the main tuning slide. I like that. When I get home with this horn after a week at ITEC then a visit to my daughter in Kalamazoo, where we are now, I will play test both horns. I guess you are supposed to do that before you buy the new one, right? But, I know what the Edwards sounds and plays like, so I am fairly confident I will be happy with my choice.

                  You can see the horn on the Adams website: https://www.adams-music.com/shop/pro...&t=wf&lid=1033

                  Mine has a gold brass bell, a dual-bore slide and 0.55 mm gauge metal.
                  Last edited by John Morgan; 06-03-2019, 11:55 AM.
                  John Morgan
                  The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                  Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                  1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                  Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                  Year Round Except Summer:
                  Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                  KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                  Summer Only:
                  Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                  Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                  • bbocaner
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 1449

                    #39
                    Can't blame any chipped notes on the "harmonic pillars" anymore
                    --
                    Barry

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                    • John Morgan
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1885

                      #40
                      Originally posted by bbocaner View Post
                      Can't blame any chipped notes on the "harmonic pillars" anymore
                      You know, I thought at first, that the harmonic pillars thing and all the little bits of various metals and first acoustically tunable trombone were pretty cool. But, the reality is that I NEVER once used any of that at all. I mean, I did put a few of the pieces on/in and blew a few notes, and nothing remarkable happened. Or maybe it did, and I didn't notice. I checked with Joe Alessi, and he says that he does not use that part of the trombone either. But it is a fine trombone. I have had a few good trombone players take a blow on it, and they all said they really liked it.
                      John Morgan
                      The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                      Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                      1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                      Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                      Year Round Except Summer:
                      Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                      KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                      Summer Only:
                      Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                      Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                      • John the Theologian
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 245

                        #41
                        John, are you driving past Iowa City again? We're gone on vacation this week, but will be back next week.

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                        • RandyL
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 197

                          #42
                          It was great to see Dave, the two Johns (the Theologian and the trombonist), Snorlax, and it seems like somebody else--and a couple of the wives. Also my son Daniel was with me. Really fun to play in the "amateur" ensemble on Saturday evening as well. And Don Winston delivered a really fine quip at the panel session on forming a community tuba-euph ensemble: "The way to make a small fortune with a euphonium is to start with a really large fortune!" I don't know whether that's original to him, adapted from some other field, or what, but I never heard it before, and it seemed a great way to make the point that playing euphonium is, for most people, a much better way to lose money than to make it.

                          I've commented elsewhere on the forum about my distinct lack of prowess as a euphonium player, but this conference has given me a nice way to portray myself otherwise. What follows is an absolutely true statement: Gene Pokorny heard me playing my euphonium, and he said to me, "You're my hero!"

                          Of course it wasn't quite that straightforward. He was in the audience when the "amateur" ensemble played on Saturday evening, so he heard me playing my euphonium. Two days earlier, on Thursday, he claimed an empty spot at our banquet table and, before eating dessert, asked people near him to guard his chocolate cake while he went to talk to some people. Somehow we failed to notice that the table server had cleared all the desserts off the table until Mr. Pokorny returned to find his cake gone. When I located the table against the back wall where the server had stacked the dessert plates, I found an untouched piece on the top of the stack and brought it to him, eliciting his exclamation, "You're my hero!" So what I wrote is perfectly true. Gene Pokorny heard me playing my euphonium, and two days earlier he had also said to me, "You're my hero!"

                          There was also some additional discussion about chocolate cake that prompts me to inform anyone who may entertain Mr. Pokorny at your home for dinner: chocolate cake will be a big hit, and it might be a good idea to bake one more cake than you would expect to need. :-)

                          Randy

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                          • John Morgan
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1885

                            #43
                            John the Theologian - We are actually going from Kalamazoo around Chicago, up to Milwaukee, over to Madison, then I-90 all the way home to Sturgis. We plan to stop at the Harley-Davidson Museum in Milwaukee for two reasons: 1) I ride a Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Ultra Limited (motorcycle #30 in my lifetime and probably last one) and 2) We have never been there before. So, sorry we won't be going through Iowa City, which we thoroughly enjoyed while at ITEC.

                            Randy - Delightful meeting you and your son Daniel as well. I wish him well in his Euphonium endeavors. Again, I am glad I met you, anyone who is a hero to Gene Pokorny must be a pretty swell fellow!! Linda and I were at the "Young at Heart" ensemble on Saturday evening as well. Nicely done. What a splendid week it all was.
                            John Morgan
                            The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                            Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                            1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                            Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                            Year Round Except Summer:
                            Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                            KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                            Summer Only:
                            Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                            Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                            • djwpe
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 263

                              #44
                              Originally posted by RandyL View Post
                              And Don Winston delivered a really fine quip at the panel session on forming a community tuba-euph ensemble: "The way to make a small fortune with a euphonium is to start with a really large fortune!" I don't know whether that's original to him, adapted from some other field, or what, but I never heard it before, and it seemed a great way to make the point that playing euphonium is, for most people, a much better way to lose money than to make it.
                              Randy, I’m glad you enjoyed the presentation. That quip is an adaptation of one I’ve heard over the years about many businesses, particularly sailing related businesses. “The way to make a million dollars selling boats is to start with two million.”

                              But, for sure, my recital series is a cost center, not a profit center.

                              Don Winston

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                              • RandyL
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 197

                                #45
                                Don,

                                The comment struck me, just as you explained, as something that could be applicable to many things and that perhaps you had heard or even devised yourself about some other endeavor and then pressed into this extra duty for the euphonium.

                                The panel was indeed helpful. Thanks for your contribution to the advancement of our instrument, including the financial aspects.

                                Randy

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