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  • marsetbor
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 7

    Denis Wick SM ULTRA4 XR

    Steven Mead and Denis Wick have just released a new mouthpiece! SM4XR in gold and silver plating. No medium shank or other size than 4.

    From euphoniumstore.net:
    ”Brand new (November 2018), we have a now model Ultra 4X euphonium mouthpiece, the SM ULTRA4XR. Already one of the most popular euphonium mouthpieces in the world, we have developed a modification to this great mouthpiece.

    It has a new rounded rim, giving great comfort to the player, with a newly-designed inner shape and slightly reduced cup depth.

    The result is a new feel, almost a 'sports' model if you like, with enormous possibilities in the higher register, with an ease of playing and crystal clear high tones. The middle range is further energised. Perhaps it doesnt have the weight of sound in the lower register of the regular U4X but the notes speak so clearly.

    Could this be the mouthpiece to give you massive confidence in the higher range, and add valuable time to your stamina? We think so!

    Nearly a year in the design, we are happy to launch this exciting new 4XR to the hugely popular Ultra and Ultra X range.”


    https://www.euphoniumstore.net/new-i...old-plated-new
    Last edited by marsetbor; 11-07-2018, 04:55 AM.
  • ChristianeSparkle
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 366

    #2
    Hope someone will give a review soon!
    "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"

    Euph: Yamaha 642II Neo - 千歌音
    Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL

    https://soundcloud.com/ashsparkle_chika
    https://www.youtube.com/user/AshTSparkle/

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    • djwpe
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 263

      #3
      The SM line has moved ever closer to the Warburton Demondrae. Ultra had a large throat. Ultra X had a shallower cup. Ultra XR has a rounder rim.

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      • Himura
        Junior Member
        • May 2017
        • 29

        #4
        The store's product description looks like they're trying to sell a quick fix to a problem that can only be solved by actual hard work, and so I suspect that many will think of this mouthpiece as over-promising and under-delivering. If so, that's a shame, as the product is probably a very good mouthpiece.
        Whatever you lose, you'll find it again. What you throw away, you'll never get back.

        -- Kenshin Himura




        1974 B & H Imperial / Bach 3G -- no LTE mouthpieces for me!

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        • daniel76309
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 376

          #5
          It might be good but is almost comical how many names and letters this mouthpiece has.

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          • Jasonium
            Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 78

            #6
            They are basically taking a page from Apple’s book of bad naming.

            SM4 XS MAX ULTRA R with Liquid Retina (tm) bore shape - the sports car of mouthpieces.
            Yamaha Neo 642TSII
            Denis Wick SM4 Ultra X

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            • ChristianeSparkle
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2018
              • 366

              #7
              The description sure is interesting, especially the insistence of it being a "sports" mouthpiece.
              "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"

              Euph: Yamaha 642II Neo - 千歌音
              Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL

              https://soundcloud.com/ashsparkle_chika
              https://www.youtube.com/user/AshTSparkle/

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              • Snorlax
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 1003

                #8
                daniel76309:"It might be good but is almost comical how many names and letters this mouthpiece has."

                ...and each name/letter adds $32.75 to the price.
                Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
                Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
                bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
                Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
                Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
                Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
                www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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                • Clayton M.
                  Member
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 92

                  #9
                  If only they made it in the 6...I might actually give it a try. Haha!
                  Clayton M.
                  Musician for Fun
                  Euphonium Newbie - XO 1270S
                  Trumpet Novice - XO 1602RS

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                  • TheJH
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 339

                    #10
                    Steven posted on Facebook that he developed the 4XR for "extended works which seem 'designed' to crush my embouchure."

                    And let's be honest... the Ultra mouthpieces have a VERY sharp rim so I'm not surprised about this change.

                    I'm very interested myself, but I'll first have to get used to a normal 4AL before I'll try this one out. I liked how the normal Ultra played but found it just a tad too deep and the rim just a bit too sharp, so this would be a nice option to try out eventually. As in, a year from now or so.
                    Euphoniums
                    2008 Willson 2960TA Celebration
                    1979 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign (Round Stamp)
                    Mouthpiece: Denis Wick SM4
                    Baritone
                    1975 Besson New Standard
                    Mouthpiece: Courtois 10

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                    • daniel76309
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 376

                      #11
                      Originally posted by snorlax View Post
                      daniel76309:"it might be good but is almost comical how many names and letters this mouthpiece has."

                      ...and each name/letter adds $32.75 to the price.

                      ha ha

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                      • Himura
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2017
                        • 29

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jasonium View Post
                        They are basically taking a page from Apple’s book of bad naming.

                        SM4 XS MAX ULTRA R with Liquid Retina (tm) bore shape - the sports car of mouthpieces.
                        Now with optional racing stripes and a spoiler. Also, feel the VTEC kick in, yo, for the high notes.
                        Whatever you lose, you'll find it again. What you throw away, you'll never get back.

                        -- Kenshin Himura




                        1974 B & H Imperial / Bach 3G -- no LTE mouthpieces for me!

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                        • MichaelSchott
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 474

                          #13
                          Both the problems it purports to solve relate to me. I'm very interested but as said above, no medium shank for now. I currently play the 4MX. My range is fine, solid to Db concert but it can be taxing. Brass Band euphonium parts often have a lot of notes above the treble clef staff.

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                          • miketeachesclass
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 461

                            #14
                            Seems like this may be more similar to the Alliance DC3 than the previous SM4X.
                            Mike Taylor

                            Illinois Brass Band
                            Fox Valley Brass Band

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                            • JasonDonnelly
                              Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 89

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheJH View Post
                              Steven posted on Facebook that he developed the 4XR for "extended works which seem 'designed' to crush my embouchure."
                              So...UFO Concerto, then?
                              University of Miami - BM Euphonium Performance '21
                              Indiana University - MM Bass Trombone and Euphonium Performance '24



                              Besson Prestige 2052S
                              Courtois 551BHRA
                              Conn 88HCLSGX
                              Various Greg Black mouthpieces

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