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  1. What mouthpiece am I describing

    Ive been playing on my schilke 51d for 3 years now and im still having issues with high notes and response... in comparison to the 51d what mouthpiece am I describing:

    Wide rim, large shallow cup, and a small throat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeflight14 View Post
    Ive been playing on my schilke 51d for 3 years now and im still having issues with high notes and response... in comparison to the 51d what mouthpiece am I describing:

    Wide rim, large shallow cup, and a small throat
    You may like something in the Steve Mead Ultra X line. The 4X has a rim about 1.02 inches and the 51D is about 1 inch (if I remember correctly). The SM6U has a rim diameter closer to 1 inch, but I don't believe it has the small throat you want. Alternatively, you can try assembling a mouthpiece to your specifications from components like Doug Elliott offers. He has a rim LT S51D, which is a copy of the 51D rim, and you can choose the cup and shank you like.
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  3. Could you link me to one, i dont want to buy the wrong one

  4. Could you link me to one, im having a little bit of trouble

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    Well, here is a link to the Mead Ultra 4x

    https://www.amazon.com/Denis-Wick-DW...dp/B00O1X2316/

    That's assuming your horn uses a large shank.
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  6. Do you know a website or where I could get it with the rim and cup hold played for my nickel allergy?

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    The link I gave you is for a mouthpiece that is silver plated. Are you OK playing on silver?
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    I would look at trombone mouthpieces for a shallow cup and a small throat.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by dsurkin View Post
    You may like something in the Steve Mead Ultra X line. The 4X has a rim about 1.02 inches and the 51D is about 1 inch (if I remember correctly). The SM6U has a rim diameter closer to 1 inch, but I don't believe it has the small throat you want. Alternatively, you can try assembling a mouthpiece to your specifications from components like Doug Elliott offers. He has a rim LT S51D, which is a copy of the 51D rim, and you can choose the cup and shank you like.
    Yes, the SM6 Ultra does have a smaller throat than the other SM mouthpieces. That's what I use for the same reasons as the OP states.
    https://www.deniswick.com/product/st...silver-plated/
    Last edited by iiipopes; 07-06-2018 at 08:51 AM.

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    The SM4X is a good choice. It's shallower than the similar SM4U but allows for a lot of good response and flexibility.

    How old are you and how much experience do you have? I ask because the 51D has been the gold standard concert band euphonium mouthpiece for many years. I can't recall many complaints about range issues with it. But then again mouthpieces are a very personal choice.

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