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Thread: Old Besson Euphonium Parts Sources

  1. Old Besson Euphonium Parts Sources

    To All:
    My collection includes a couple of older Bessons: 1905 - 1909ish 4 Valve Chicago Bore, small shank, non-compensator (condition iffy); and a 1960ish 4 valve, bell front compensator (excellent player).
    Given relative conditions / values, do not want to re-manufacture bits and pieces.
    Would like to find a source of older Besson parts (used and scavenged from hulks are fine).
    Any recommendations on a dealer or repair company with access to older Besson euphonium bits and pieces?
    Thanks,
    Jim
    Jim Babbitt
    1960s 4 valve and 1971 3 valve Besson New Standards (Denis Wick 6BM) for regular playing
    1936 Conn 5 valve 30I Double Bell (Bach 6-1/2AL) General Purpose Back -Up
    1924 Buescher 5 valve (the Denis Wick is close) and 1940 Holton 5 valve (Bach 6-1/2AL) Double Bells for kicks.
    1860s OTS Saxhorn when history is required (the Denis Wick fits)

  2. You can always check with Dawkes in the UK. They may have some of what you're looking for.

    https://www.dawkes.co.uk/accessories...sey+and+hawkes

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    for instruments of that age, I don't think anyone's going to have new old stock parts. What do they need?
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    Barry

  4. Thanks Barry.
    I agree. Do not think there is much in the way of applicable New Old Stock out there.
    Basically trying to find out if there is a Besson specialist out there that has a few euphonium "hulks" as their parts bin.
    My current search is a knob for the bottom of the Chicago Bore horn and a lyre screw for the Bell Front horn.
    The lyre screw for my New Standard will fit the Bell Front horn, but my local hardware store could not identify the size / threads.
    Obviously these are not critical parts and the search helps keep me busy.
    Thanks,
    Jim
    Jim Babbitt
    1960s 4 valve and 1971 3 valve Besson New Standards (Denis Wick 6BM) for regular playing
    1936 Conn 5 valve 30I Double Bell (Bach 6-1/2AL) General Purpose Back -Up
    1924 Buescher 5 valve (the Denis Wick is close) and 1940 Holton 5 valve (Bach 6-1/2AL) Double Bells for kicks.
    1860s OTS Saxhorn when history is required (the Denis Wick fits)

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    Possibly British Standard Threads. From old clockmakers, prevalent in lots of mid-century UK items.

    Can be found in better clock shops and gunsmiths over here.

    Dennis
    1966 Besson 181 highly modified New Standard
    1918 Hawkes & Son euph 3&1 original
    1917 Conn C/D/Eb mellophone original
    1915 York Bb tenorhorn original

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    I keep meaning to buy some good thread gauges (English and Metric), but never seem to get around to it. If you know the thread size/pitch, that gives you a LOT better chance of finding something. What the "hardware" stores have is hardly close to complete. And between firearms and musical instruments, I seem to need to find some goofy screw every few months.

    I'd suggest you post your query to Tubenet or send an email to Dan Schultz and ask him (since he might know just off-hand -- and in fact might have one).
    Gary Merrill
    Wessex EEb Bass tuba (Denis Wick 3XL)
    Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
    Amati Oval Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J6 euph)
    1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba, modified Kelly 25
    Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K9/112 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
    1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Olds #3)

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    Yeah, what you really need is a repair tech who has a whole room full of unrepairable hulks from which they can scrounge parts.
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    Barry

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    Oberloh in Seattle has parts widow euphs, I know as some were from me.

    Dennis
    1966 Besson 181 highly modified New Standard
    1918 Hawkes & Son euph 3&1 original
    1917 Conn C/D/Eb mellophone original
    1915 York Bb tenorhorn original

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