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  1. Euphonium stand for a bell front Euphonium?

    I teach middle school band, and I have most of my instruments out on display ready for me to demonstrate for my students. This year I decided to leave my Mack Brass Euphonium at home and instead use my restored Olds Studio Model Bell Front Euphonium for demonstration purposes since my beginning Band students are all on these older model horns.

    Problem is I can't find/not sure of instrument stands that this will fit with. Lower brass stands are pretty expensive and I don't want to spend $100 for a stand that won't even fit my Euphonium. I prefer not to just leave the horn out and taking it in and out of the gig bag wastes time. Any stands made specifically for the Bell Fronts?

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    You would do well with a stand that holds the instrument with the bell pointing up. Such stands "touch" the bell side, the opposite side (the long branch), and the bottom bow, so they are agnostic about bell-front vs. bell-up. K&M is the most well-regarded brand, but there are cheaper imitations that might do well for you. Here are several examples:

    K&M from Amazon:
    https://www.amazon.com/K-M-14941-000...dp/B000NTBOD0/

    Nomad from Amazon's site:
    https://www.amazon.com/Nomad-NIS-C07.../dp/B00TV8IF6S

    Nomad from eBay (slightly cheaper):
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nomad-Tuba-E...-/162061440887

    Nomad (even cheaper price):
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Nomad-NI...epid=836479034

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    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
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    I use a K&M stand for any of the euphoniums I have owned. It is very solid and works great on any euphonium. Since it holds the horn in place from the sides, I think it would also work for bell-front models. It isn't cheap, but will last forever and is very sturdy and secure. It is also pretty adjustable for size.

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    You can get one here (and other places):
    http://www.hickeys.com/music/brass/t...nium-stand.php
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, Wessex EP-100 Dolce Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Wessex TE-360 Bombino Eb Tuba
    Rapid City New Horizons & Municipal Bands (Euphonium)
    Black Hills Symphony Orchestra (Bass Trombone), Powder River Symphony, Gillette, WY (Tenor Trombone)
    Black Hills Brass Quintet (Tuba)

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    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    You would do well with a stand that holds the instrument with the bell pointing up. Such stands "touch" the bell side, the opposite side (the long branch), and the bottom bow, so they are agnostic about bell-front vs. bell-up. K&M is the most well-regarded brand, but there are cheaper imitations that might do well for you. [snip]
    I also recommend the Hercules stand, which I find to be very sturdy.
    http://herculesstands.com/internatio...-brass/ds552b/
    Dean L. Surkin
    Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1, Kadja, and DE 101XTG9 mouthpieces
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    Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
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    I missed the Hercules - thanks for bringing it up. Here is a link to purchase if you like it:

    Amazon:
    https://www.amazon.com/Hercules-DS55.../dp/B000EEJ75G

    eBay:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-Tub...epid=141926358
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

  6. Is the hercules as safe as the K&M? I like hercules stuff, but not sure I like the way this stand holds the Euph.

  7. I have the Hercules stand -- it holds both my tuba and my euphonium securely. I prefer it to the K&M floor stand since it raises the horn to eye level and makes it much less susceptible to getting kicked or tripped over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by booboo View Post
    Is the hercules as safe as the K&M? I like hercules stuff, but not sure I like the way this stand holds the Euph.
    The stand has a tripod base with a wide spread and heavy-duty hardware. I would not consider this a portable stand due to its weight and size (it's about 10 pounds, which means it's like carrying another euphonium around).
    Dean L. Surkin
    Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1, Kadja, and DE 101XTG9 mouthpieces
    Bach 36B trombone; pBone; Vincent Bach (from 1971) 6.5AL mouthpiece
    Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
    See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo) and Delilah (the cavapoo puppy) keep me company while practicing

  9. And now for something completely different: when I started 5th grade band in the early '70's, and my band teacher was Navy trained, he taught the students to essentially hold it at an angle (these are my words, not his) like a teddy bear with the mouthpiece and right hand aligned properly. No stand needed.

    Page 8 of this link:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hC...ritone&f=false

    And if you must have a stand, the single adjustable rod type is recommended.

    I agree that now that the service bands have essentially all gone to Boosey-Besson style euphonium playing rather than American hybrid bari/euph instruments, it can take quite a search to find literature on the older pedagogy.
    Last edited by iiipopes; 09-13-2017 at 03:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iiipopes View Post
    And now for something completely different: when I started 5th grade band in the early '70's, and my band teacher was Navy trained, he taught the students to essentially hold it at an angle (these are my words, not his) like a teddy bear with the mouthpiece and right hand aligned properly. No stand needed.

    Page 8 of this link:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=hC...ritone&f=false

    And if you must have a stand, the single adjustable rod type is recommended.

    I agree that now that the service bands have essentially all gone to Boosey-Besson style euphonium playing rather than American hybrid bari/euph instruments, it can take quite a search to find literature on the older pedagogy.
    The stand that I am referring to and others I think, are for holding/securing the instrument when you are NOT playing, i.e., you are setting the euphonium down to change music, take a break, etc. Quite different from a stand used to help hold the horn while playing.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, Wessex EP-100 Dolce Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Wessex TE-360 Bombino Eb Tuba
    Rapid City New Horizons & Municipal Bands (Euphonium)
    Black Hills Symphony Orchestra (Bass Trombone), Powder River Symphony, Gillette, WY (Tenor Trombone)
    Black Hills Brass Quintet (Tuba)

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