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  1. #11
    They would be at the Eastman booth, I'm sure.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
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  2. #12
    I look forward to your reviews after you play test it in ITEC!
    "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. And always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euphonium)"

    Euphonium: JP 274 MKII
    Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL,Arnolds & sons 6 1/2 AL-B
    Gone but not forgotten: Yamaha EP100 (May you serve the children well in the hands of your new owner. Thank you for the past 15 years)

  3. #13
    from what it sounds like, bring your medium/european shank mouthpiece!
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    Barry

  4. Quote Originally Posted by bbocaner View Post
    from what it sounds like, bring your medium/european shank mouthpiece!
    That would be disappointing if true.
    James Kircoff
    Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Sterling Virtuoso w/ Parker 4G Houser)
    Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE955 w/ Denis Wick 6BY) and 10 piece ensemble (Getzen 1052FD w/ Bach 1G)

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by bbocaner View Post
    from what it sounds like, bring your medium/european shank mouthpiece!
    That would be a little surprising, but I emailed them for clarification. There could be engineering reasons for doing this, I suppose, but it would put them in a very small circle of horns using that size today.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

  6. #16
    Hiram Diaz in the marine band (and who posts here sometimes) is one of their development artists for this instrument. He confirmed on a facebook post yesterday that it's medium/european. I think it's silly, but he and the other development artists are willson 2900 players, so...

    One would assume they actually did some experimental verification of the differences.
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    Barry

  7. #17
    Thanks, Barry. It seems a controversial choice, but the proof is in the pudding! I'll carry my 4AM (as I always do at shows). I believe the Willson 2900 is the only Willson in this market with the medium shank. The 2950 and 2960 both went large.

    You may recall from posts on the forum that I find a certain charm in the older Bessons with the medium shank. But the general movement in new horns has been a bigger-is-better slant, and in my own case I certainly want a horn that can carry above an ensemble when necessary. As I read my words here I can't help but think that Shires has thought of all this. I'll be able to give MY impression at least after ITEC.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

  8. The 2900 is an excellent instrument to use as a template, and I don't blame Shires for doing so if that's the case.

    Still -- deciding to go with a European shank seems like a limiting move since the vast majority of euph performers play with large shank MPs. Additionally, there are a lot of players who don't have European shank MPs or can't get their favorite MP in a European shank.

    Shires did say they will release a custom series in a couple of years -- perhaps they will offer a large shank option at that time.
    James Kircoff
    Genesee Wind Symphony - principal euphonium (Sterling Virtuoso w/ Parker 4G Houser)
    Capital City Brass Band (2019 NABBA 2nd section champions) - 1st baritone (Besson BE955 w/ Denis Wick 6BY) and 10 piece ensemble (Getzen 1052FD w/ Bach 1G)

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    in my own case I certainly want a horn that can carry above an ensemble when necessary
    I've had a few brief conversations with Hiram about the instrument. One of the steps in development is that they had him try out the existing Eastman euphonium from Shires' parent company, which is large shank. His feedback on that was that it had trouble carrying over the ensemble. So at the very least I know they've considered that.

    I'm looking forward to trying it out, too! I do like my Shires trombones a lot.
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    Barry

  10. #20
    Steve Shires returns to his Iowa City roots. He started his instrument making career as a repair tech working for West Music here in Iowa City after studying trombone performance here at the U of Iowa. According to legend he had a vintage Elkhart Conn 8H trombone that kept trying to duplicate and one thing lead to another and before long he was in the trombone making business and now apparently euphoniums as well as the trumpets that they make.

    One of my trombone section mates in our big band was a musicology prof of S Shires and when Ed wanted a new trombone a few years ago when he took up playing again in his retirement, he was overwhelmed at the options that the Shires modular horns offered. Ed simply said something like: ' Steve build me a horn that's like the old Conn 79H I used to have." Steve Shires said no problem and set Ed up with a nice medium bore trombone.

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