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Thread: Kurun & Gilbert (K&G) Mouthpieces

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuphoJon View Post
    For my York 4052 I started on a DW 4AL, then SM4U and gradually got smaller in terms of rim diameter over the next 5 years until I found a size comfortable to me - a Bach 5G. I felt really at ease with this size but the tone wasn't a patch on the larger DWs I used to play on and the intonation was challenging right across the range......
    Okay, I will ask the dumb question. I have seen you use the word "patch" twice lately. "The tone wasn't a patch on the larger DWs....." What the heck does that mean? Is this a British thing or have I just had my head in the sand for 70 years? Help??!!
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Morgan View Post
    [snip]"The tone wasn't a patch on the larger DWs....." What the heck does that mean?
    Generally, "isn't a patch on..." means "doesn't come close to..."
    Dean L. Surkin
    Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsurkin View Post
    Generally, "isn't a patch on..." means "doesn't come close to..."
    Thanks, I have led a sheltered life. I don't think I have ever heard that or ever read that in my almost 70 years.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
    1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    John, I guess we've both led sheltered lives, because that is a new phrase for me, too!
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
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  5. Thanks Guys, so apart from bbocaner has anyone else an opinion on the inner rim profile rounded edge or bite maybe compared to SM4 4AL or DC mouthpieces

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by John Morgan View Post
    Okay, I will ask the dumb question. I have seen you use the word "patch" twice lately. "The tone wasn't a patch on the larger DWs....." What the heck does that mean? Is this a British thing or have I just had my head in the sand for 70 years? Help??!!
    Sorry, Dean's correct. I tend to say "isn't a patch on" when the difference is so great that im comfortable that it goes beyond my personal opinion and almost becomes a statement of fact.

  7. David Thornton played a Wick 4AL for years. He now plays the K&G 3.5D.
    Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
    Concord Band
    Winchendon Winds
    Townsend Military Band

  8. My experience is that K&G inner rims are sharper than Wick 4AL.

    My previous euph Sovereign 966, the lead pipe is not at a very good angle and caused the bottom half of the rim to dig into the flesh just below my lower lip.

    Every mouthpiece I've had no issues with this design flaw, except:
    Doug Elliott Lexan Rim (103) - I suspect the Lexan gripped too much and after long periods of playing I feel like there is a friction blister / rope burn where the "digging" takes place.
    K&G: I feel the corner of the inner rim is sharp and my lip literally splits/cut where the digging takes place.

    I loved how the K&Gs play but I just couldn't play them without blood. (3.5 was too big for me, 4 was perfect).

    Had the privilege of sitting next to David Thornton for a week, what a beautiful, monsterously big sound like I've never heard before. It's definitely not the equipment because I bought the same mouthpiece and couldn't get even close to emulating the sound!

    I think if you were on 4al and wanted help in the upper register than go with a 4. If high range was not a problem go for a 3.5.
    The wick is right between the two K&G sizes.

  9. If anyone is intrested in a K&G 3D:

    http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...d#.WPnbI_mLSUk
    Euphonium: Adams E3 Custom Series (SS Bell)
    Trombone: Benge 175F


  10. Just a word re: K&G,

    Dave Thornton played a Wick 4AL when I met him in 2008 (so did Dave Childs at that time). Dave Thornton now plays the K&G 3.5.
    Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
    Concord Band
    Winchendon Winds
    Townsend Military Band

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