John Morgan
The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 BaritoneAdams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
Year Round Except Summer:
Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)Summer Only:
KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)
Dean L. Surkin
Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
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John Morgan
The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 BaritoneAdams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
Year Round Except Summer:
Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)Summer Only:
KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)
John, I guess we've both led sheltered lives, because that is a new phrase for me, too!
Dave Werden (ASCAP)
Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
Adams Artist (Adams E3)
Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
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Thanks Guys, so apart from bbocaner has anyone else an opinion on the inner rim profile rounded edge or bite maybe compared to SM4 4AL or DC mouthpieces
David Thornton played a Wick 4AL for years. He now plays the K&G 3.5D.
Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
Concord Band
Winchendon Winds
Townsend Military Band
My experience is that K&G inner rims are sharper than Wick 4AL.
My previous euph Sovereign 966, the lead pipe is not at a very good angle and caused the bottom half of the rim to dig into the flesh just below my lower lip.
Every mouthpiece I've had no issues with this design flaw, except:
Doug Elliott Lexan Rim (103) - I suspect the Lexan gripped too much and after long periods of playing I feel like there is a friction blister / rope burn where the "digging" takes place.
K&G: I feel the corner of the inner rim is sharp and my lip literally splits/cut where the digging takes place.
I loved how the K&Gs play but I just couldn't play them without blood. (3.5 was too big for me, 4 was perfect).
Had the privilege of sitting next to David Thornton for a week, what a beautiful, monsterously big sound like I've never heard before. It's definitely not the equipment because I bought the same mouthpiece and couldn't get even close to emulating the sound!
I think if you were on 4al and wanted help in the upper register than go with a 4. If high range was not a problem go for a 3.5.
The wick is right between the two K&G sizes.
If anyone is intrested in a K&G 3D:
http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...d#.WPnbI_mLSUk
Euphonium: Adams E3 Custom Series (SS Bell)
Trombone: Benge 175F
Just a word re: K&G,
Dave Thornton played a Wick 4AL when I met him in 2008 (so did Dave Childs at that time). Dave Thornton now plays the K&G 3.5.
Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
Concord Band
Winchendon Winds
Townsend Military Band