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  • LittleJimmy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 160

    Arban's for amateurs?

    I am a 77 year old decent amateur player with a Yamaha 621s baritone. I play bass clef n 4 community bands but practice only about 15-20 minutes a day. I have many books but decided recently to look at Arban's, so I got Alessi and Bowman's book through the library. Since I'm not willing to spend $55 for their book, I've hunted around and found several options--Randall's book; Arban's Famous Method for Trombone; and Arban's Method for trombone and baritone (Gordon and Goldman, 1936). I'd appreciate any suggestions as to what is the closest to Alessi and Bowman but in the $20-30 range. Are there others I should consider? Thanks.

    Little Jimmy
  • 58mark
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 481

    #2
    https://www.amazon.com/O2574-Arban-P...dp/0825803721#


    great book

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    • John Morgan
      Moderator
      • Apr 2014
      • 1885

      #3
      Arban's Famous Method for Trombone is a good book, I have it. I also have the Bowman/Alessi commented Arban's which is spiral bound and a great book but over $50. The first one I mentioned is similar to the standard Arban's book, get that one if you don't want to cough up a little over $50.
      John Morgan
      The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
      Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
      1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
      Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
      Year Round Except Summer:
      Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
      KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
      Summer Only:
      Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
      Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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      • davewerden
        Administrator
        • Nov 2005
        • 11137

        #4
        NOTE: the first book listed above is 80 pages. The Bowman-Alessi book is 396 pages.

        https://www.amazon.com/9175-Complete.../dp/0800004019
        Dave Werden (ASCAP)
        Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
        Adams Artist (Adams E3)
        Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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        • John Morgan
          Moderator
          • Apr 2014
          • 1885

          #5
          Originally posted by davewerden View Post
          NOTE: the first book listed above is 80 pages. The Bowman-Alessi book is 396 pages.

          https://www.amazon.com/9175-Complete.../dp/0800004019
          Which "first book listed above" are you referring to? My Arban's Famous Method for Trombone is 261 pages.
          John Morgan
          The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
          Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
          1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
          Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
          Year Round Except Summer:
          Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
          KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
          Summer Only:
          Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
          Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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          • John Morgan
            Moderator
            • Apr 2014
            • 1885

            #6
            Originally posted by davewerden View Post
            NOTE: the first book listed above is 80 pages. The Bowman-Alessi book is 396 pages.

            https://www.amazon.com/9175-Complete.../dp/0800004019
            Which "first book listed above" are you referring to? My Arban's Famous Method for Trombone is 261 pages.
            John Morgan
            The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
            Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
            1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
            Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
            Year Round Except Summer:
            Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
            KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
            Summer Only:
            Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
            Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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            • jimpjorps
              Member
              • Sep 2015
              • 84

              #7
              As the extreme budget option, if you can read treble clef and don't mind reading off a screen or printing it yourself, the original Arban's is in the public domain and available on the IMSLP/Petrucci music library.
              Dillon 3+1 non-comp euph - Wessex marching baritone - Dynasty DEG G baritone bugle
              Schiller American Heritage Bb/F trombone
              Kanstul Contra Grande G contrabass bugle - Schiller American Heritage 3/4 4V piston BBb tuba

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              • davewerden
                Administrator
                • Nov 2005
                • 11137

                #8
                John, I followed the link to the one linked in 58mark's post. Amazon says it is 80 pages and weighs 8.8 ounces. That's as much as I know!
                Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                YouTube: dwerden
                Facebook: davewerden
                Twitter: davewerden
                Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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                • John Morgan
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1885

                  #9
                  Oh, okay. You're right about that book, the Arban-Prescott book is 80 pages. I think several were responding all at once and I thought you were referring to my post. Sorry.
                  John Morgan
                  The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                  Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                  1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                  Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                  Year Round Except Summer:
                  Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                  KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                  Summer Only:
                  Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                  Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                  • 58mark
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 481

                    #10
                    The Prescott version is very good, it's all the essentials, and sounds perfect for what he is asking for

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                    • bbocaner
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1449

                      #11
                      The Randall/Mantia edition published by Carl Fisher can be had for $30. It's missing the duets and the theme and variations solos that are at the back of the original trumpet book, and are also included in the Alessi/Bowman edition. I also like that the Alessi/Bowman edition is spiral bound and the type is bigger and easier to read, and that they've corrected some infamous typos, but the Randall/Mantia edition is very functional.
                      --
                      Barry

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