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  • LittleJimmy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 160

    I need advice on lifting my baritone 4 inches

    since the Quick Horn Rinse euphonium pad, which looks good, will raise my horn only 2-3/4 inches. I've tried pillows, towels, and sheets of styrofoam but nothing has worked very well. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Has anyone tried to add height to the Quick Horn Rinse pad? Thanks.

    Little Jimmy
    Yamaha 621s YBH
  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    #2
    I added one extra sheet of foam over and above the ones that came with it, which made it more comfortable for me. It was a 1/2" slab. I don't think the casing would hold much more than that. Otherwise you would need to find something to add to the top. One of those gardener's pads (green, tight, dense foam) or similar might be good for the top. The bottom is a nice material to stick to your pants, so I would not put it under the pad. But on top all you need is something your horn won't slide around on.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
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    • carbogast
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 531

      #3
      Two pads perhaps?
      Carroll Arbogast
      Piano Technician
      CMA Piano Care

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      • 58mark
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 481

        #4
        I'm 6 foot 8, and I have to hold a euphonium or baritone as if I'm standing. It never touches my lap.

        I have tried rolled up towels held together with duct tape, but never found anything that really worked well

        Have you looked into a Stewart stand?

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        • bbocaner
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 1449

          #5
          I don't think I've ever seen anyone who plays baritone with it resting in their lap. The instrument doesn't weigh much, you just hold it up while you play. Euphonium, certainly, but not baritone.
          --
          Barry

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          • DaveBj
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1064

            #6
            Originally posted by bbocaner View Post
            I don't think I've ever seen anyone who plays baritone with it resting in their lap. The instrument doesn't weigh much, you just hold it up while you play. Euphonium, certainly, but not baritone.
            Yeah, my euph sits on a QHR pad on my lap, but I hold my bari up with most of the weight on my left hand.
            David Bjornstad

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            Cullman (AL) Community Band (Euph Section Leader)
            Brass Band of Huntsville (2nd Bari)

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            • opus37
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 159

              #7
              Maybe he doesn't mean a british baritone. His signature says he has a Yamaha 621. He may have just used the term baritone to describe his 621 euphonium. Then this all makes sense.

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              • bbocaner
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 1449

                #8
                It says 621 YBH, not YEP
                --
                Barry

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                • LittleJimmy
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 160

                  #9
                  Im Little Jimmy and yes, my 621s

                  is a baritone horn. Unfortunately I had back surgery last fall and am wearing a back brace. It's hard for me to keep my horn high enough, which is why I'm posting for advice. Thanks.

                  Little Jimmy
                  Yama 621s YBH

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                  • bbocaner
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 1449

                    #10
                    aha, that explains it. Best wishes for you in quick healing. Yeah, whatever works for you, obviously! Try strapping rolled up towels to the bottom bow of the instrument with velcro straps.
                    --
                    Barry

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                    • davewerden
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 11136

                      #11
                      I'm not sure if this was Barry's meaning, but I have found that attaching a pad to the bottom REAR of the instrument can help. The pad would rest against your stomach and let your arm vector the force toward you, which is a much easier effort.
                      Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                      Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                      Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                      Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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                      • jimpjorps
                        Member
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 84

                        #12
                        Neotech sells brass slings that work like sax straps -- the ends loop around the horn like a baggage tag and the strap is supported on your shoulder. This could be an alternative to propping it up in your lap, assuming bearing that weight on your shoulder wouldn't aggravate your back.

                        There's also more expensive options like the Stewart Stand or the Ergobrass, if you don't mind trying to adapt something meant for euphonium use to a baritone.
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                        • booboo
                          Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 106

                          #13
                          Can't recommend the qhr pad enough. Really helped my back. There is probably not enough space to get the extra padding you need though. You could always try a folded towel and the qhr pad on top - I think its worth having the. Qhr still for its non slip properties. Anything else I've tried the instrument tends to slide around.

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                          • LittleJimmy
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 160

                            #14
                            Thanks everyone. I ordered the Quick Horn Rinse pad a few days ago and will add either a towel or garden kneeling pad underneath it.

                            LittleJimmy
                            Yamaha 621s baritone

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