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  • superted
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 119

    GENERAL: Snake brush came off, stuck in 1st slide tubing!

    I was cleaning my euph with a new snake brush, and the brush part came off the sneak and lodged itself in the 1st slide branch where the branch comes out of the valve casing!

    I'm looking for reassurances that it can be extracted by a repair person!

    I've tried blowing it out, and pumping it out with water to no avail...

    Also tried wire hook which ended up pushing it in more...
    Ted

    Besson Prestige BE2052-8G-0 Euphonium
    Besson Sovereign 956 Baritone
  • ghmerrill
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 2384

    #2
    Without actually seeing what the situation is, it's not possible to tell what it will take; but you're only dollars away in one way or another. A good repair tech should be able to do it in the least invasive way possible, and may likely be able to scope it before deciding how to approach the problem.

    I typically don't use a snake except for tuning slides and the lead pipe -- depending on my flushing apparatus to clean out everything else. Gunk typically doesn't collect except at the bottoms of slides, and what does can be flushed if you do it right. Not worth the risk to me to screw something up or get stuck in order to clean a portion of tubing that almost certainly doesn't require internal scrubbing. Also, if you clean pretty regularly, you'll discover that snaking doesn't accomplish much because there isn't much there to accomplish. At least that's my experience.
    Gary Merrill
    Wessex EEb Bass tuba (DW 3XL or 2XL)
    Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
    Amati Oval Euph (DE 104, Euph J, J6 euph)
    1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba (with std US receiver), Kelly 25
    Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K10/112/14 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
    1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Olds #3)

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    • RickF
      Moderator
      • Jan 2006
      • 3871

      #3
      I'm pretty sure a brass repair tech will be able to remove it. If I understand your description of where it is lodged, maybe a fairly stiff nylon cable tie would get it out. These are flexible but stiff enough to push around curves, but won't scratch the brass. It can be bent some to go around corners. I think if you attack it from the valve casing and push it out out toward the slide.
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      Rick Floyd
      Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

      "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
      Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

      El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
      The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
      Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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      • DaveBj
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1064

        #4
        That should mellow the sound considerably :-O
        David Bjornstad

        1923 Conn New Wonder 86I, Bach 6 1/2 AL
        2018 Wessex EP100 Dolce, Denis Wick 4ABL
        2013 Jinbao JBEP-1111L, Denis Wick 4AM
        2015 Jinbao JBBR-1240, Denis Wick clone mouthpiece of unknown designation
        Cullman (AL) Community Band (Euph Section Leader)
        Brass Band of Huntsville (2nd Bari)

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        • superted
          Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 119

          #5
          Originally posted by RickF View Post
          I'm pretty sure a brass repair tech will be able to remove it. If I understand your description of where it is lodged, maybe a fairly stiff nylon cable tie would get it out. These are flexible but stiff enough to push around curves, but won't scratch the brass. It can be bent some to go around corners. I think if you attack it from the valve casing and push it out out toward the slide.
          Cable ties from valve casing worked! Thanks Rick!
          Ted

          Besson Prestige BE2052-8G-0 Euphonium
          Besson Sovereign 956 Baritone

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          • RickF
            Moderator
            • Jan 2006
            • 3871

            #6
            Originally posted by superted View Post
            Cable ties from valve casing worked! Thanks Rick!
            Oh great! Glad to hear it.
            Rick Floyd
            Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

            "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
            Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

            El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
            The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
            Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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