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  • stephenhunt16
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 19

    Buzzing Sound (?)

    I recently purchased a used Miraphone M5050 in great condition, very good horn. However, when I play second valve, there is an extremely noticeable buzzing/sizzling type sound, and a vibration. It only happens when second valve is used so I'm thinking it's something to do with the piping or valve cylinder (and not a player problem, since it doesn't happen on other valves). There is a spit catcher attached to the valves that also may be the culprit... What do you guys think?
    Music Education and Music Theory Major
    Miraphone M5050
  • RickF
    Moderator
    • Jan 2006
    • 3871

    #2
    The valve trough is a good thing to check first. Just slide it off and see if the buzz goes away. It could also be the 2nd valve spring either off center or mangled a bit. Also be sure all the valve caps (top and bottom) are snug.

    Congrats on a really great horn! I really love my M5050.
    Rick Floyd
    Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

    "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
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    • davewerden
      Administrator
      • Nov 2005
      • 11137

      #3
      Let me add my congratulations on obtaining a very nice, pro-level euphonium!

      I was formulating an answer when I saw Rick's, and I would not change a word of it!!
      Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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      • John Morgan
        Moderator
        • Apr 2014
        • 1885

        #4
        Do you have a trigger for the main tuning slide on your M5050? If so, check the two large screws that hold the gold bar that keeps you from contacting the tuning slide when you press the trigger lever. Mine came loose frequently. But, you would probably hear a rattle or vibration all the time if this was the case.

        You have a great horn, it was my favorite horn of all I had owned up to that point, when I had mine not too long ago.
        John Morgan
        The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
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        • stephenhunt16
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 19

          #5
          Thank you all for the help! I checked all of what you guys said, turns out the valve spit catcher was a little loose. I got that fixed and it's good to go!
          Music Education and Music Theory Major
          Miraphone M5050

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          • RickF
            Moderator
            • Jan 2006
            • 3871

            #6
            That's good to hear. My valve trough would sometimes fall off at an inopportune times so I added small rubber "O-rings" to the nipples of the bottom valve caps. If I remember right it was number '5' that fit well. You can find these at any home improvement supply -- Home Depot or Lowes.
            ____________________

            Here's a link to Don Winston's post about adding O-rings:
            http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...205#post123205
            Last edited by RickF; 08-11-2016, 11:00 AM. Reason: add link to Don Winston's post
            Rick Floyd
            Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

            "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
            Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

            El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
            The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
            Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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