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  • dsurkin
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 526

    #16
    Originally posted by RickF View Post
    [snip]There is a Yamaha performing artist I know in NY who plays both tuba and euphonium and he likes the Schilke 60 on euphonium. That's a huge mouthpiece for euphonium. It works for him but I think that's because he is used to playing tuba more. A mouthpiece that big would make the higher notes even harder to obtain than the mouthpieces you've tried already.[snip].
    Walter Barrett (NYC metropolitan area), plays a Yamaha 641 using a Doug Elliott 114 rim (I think the rest of the mouthpiece is J cup and J8 shank, but I'm not sure). He has told me that he used to play a Schilke 60. Walter's main instruments are trombone and euphonium, and while I've known him to play bass trombone, and I wouldn't doubt that he can play tuba, I've never heard him mention it as his main instrument.

    Walter has a very smooth range from the pedal tones to concert C5 (and likely, higher than that; that's just the highest I've heard him play when I've been in his section). I asked him about his choice of such a large mouthpiece, and he said something to the effect that it felt right to him.
    Dean L. Surkin
    Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
    Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
    Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
    See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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    • LargoBone
      Member
      • Jun 2016
      • 86

      #17
      I am also a fan of the Wick euphonium mouthpieces, I'll second the 4AL. However, before you make a decision, you should try a Schilke 51D (or even 52), and a Bach/Faxx 4G and/or 5G. Those are just a few "standard" euphonium mouthpieces that everyone should give a try at some point.

      Good luck! If all else fails, work really hard on the mouthpiece you have and make it work. Any piece of equipment works better with practice.
      1905 Boosey Class A Euphonium-Wick SM4M
      Yamaha 301M Marching Baritone-Schilke 52
      1960 Conn 11J-Conn Helleberg
      1961 Conn 14J-Vincent DFL
      2015 King 2341-Bach Corp. 24AW
      Olds O95 Sousaphone-King 26

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      • RickF
        Moderator
        • Jan 2006
        • 3871

        #18
        Thanks Dean,

        Yes, that was Walter Barrett I was referring to. Walt used to post here from time to time (aka 'WaltTrombone') but haven't seen him post in quite awhile.
        Rick Floyd
        Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

        "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
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        • John the Theologian
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 245

          #19
          Don't forget the UIM/CKB/King (same mp) version of the 5G. Here's a link to the last discussion we have about it and a couple of places where it is available for a great price.

          http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...G#.V4WrX_krKM8

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/King-5G-Trom...c=1&rmvSB=true

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/CKB-5G-Bass-...c=1&rmvSB=true

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          • joshealejo
            Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 113

            #20
            That one is deeper than the bach 5G right? I thinking to buy than one to try
            Some stuff

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            • dsurkin
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 526

              #21
              Originally posted by dsurkin View Post
              Walter has a very smooth range from the pedal tones to concert C5 (and likely, higher than that; that's just the highest I've heard him play when I've been in his section). I asked him about his choice of such a large mouthpiece, and he said something to the effect that it felt right to him.
              Now I've heard Walter play concert Eb5 at a performance of the Westchester Band. And he told me that yes, he doubles tuba. He also says "hi" to Rick.
              Dean L. Surkin
              Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
              Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
              Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
              See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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              • RickF
                Moderator
                • Jan 2006
                • 3871

                #22
                Originally posted by dsurkin View Post
                Now I've heard Walter play concert Eb5 at a performance of the Westchester Band. And he told me that yes, he doubles tuba. He also says "hi" to Rick.
                Cool! Please tell Walt 'hi' back. We got together at his house maybe 13 or 14 years ago to play some duets when my youngest son was still working at IBM (Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr). I was impressed with Walt's playing. I think I had only been back to playing for a couple of years then. Walt even played the didgeridoo briefly to demonstrate how 'multi-phonics' work.
                Rick Floyd
                Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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                • dsurkin
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 526

                  #23
                  Originally posted by RickF View Post
                  Cool! Please tell Walt 'hi' back. We got together at his house maybe 13 or 14 years ago to play some duets when my youngest son was still working at IBM (Thomas J. Watson Research Ctr). I was impressed with Walt's playing. I think I had only been back to playing for a couple of years then. Walt even played the didgeridoo briefly to demonstrate how 'multi-phonics' work.
                  Will do, Rick. He told me you played his euphonium and he played his bass trumpet for the duets.
                  Dean L. Surkin
                  Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
                  Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
                  Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
                  See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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                  • euph00l
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 1

                    #24
                    You might try a bass trombone mpc eg 1or 1.5G, I use a Courtois 1.5











                    You might wish to try a bass trombone mpc. I use a Courtois 1.5 G with good results

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