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Thread: Euphonium Doubler mouthpiece

  1. Quote Originally Posted by iiipopes View Post
    Your mileage will vary. You may have to experiment with to find a combination that works with your embouchure. I tried about two dozen tuba mouthpieces over the years and over a dozen different mouthpieces for my American horn before coming to this combination that works for me. I realize where you are that may be difficult, so you may have to go with one of the middle-of-the-road recommendations, depending on what is available where you live.
    Thank you so much! Yes, here is a little difficult to have dozen of mouthpieces to try, the stores here don t allow us to test mouthpiece, so we must see the manufacturer details and "expect" how It sounds and just purchase to try, If don t work, just sell It to someone, This is how It works here Thank you so much!

    One more time Thank you so much for all your messages! I really apreciate them much!

  2. #12
    My thoughts on doubling would be to look at a Wedge 3G mouthpiece.

    http://www.wedgemouthpiece.com/catalogue/trombone.html

    Here's the specs. I do play a lot of bass trombone and euphonium. I primarily use a wedge 3g, GW Kadja, and a Faxx 1.5. Good luck on your continuing quest.

    Largest of the tenor trombone mouthpieces we offer. Huge sound on tenor trombone. Excellent choice for the bass trombone player who doubles on tenor trombone. Very popular euphonium mouthpiece.
    ID 1.056 inches, 26.82 mm
    Throat .275 inches, 7 mm
    Bach 3G
    D Elliott 104I
    Schilke 53, 5.3
    Yamaha 53

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Markmc611 View Post
    My thoughts on doubling would be to look at a Wedge 3G mouthpiece.

    http://www.wedgemouthpiece.com/catalogue/trombone.html

    Here's the specs. I do play a lot of bass trombone and euphonium. I primarily use a wedge 3g, GW Kadja, and a Faxx 1.5. Good luck on your continuing quest.

    Largest of the tenor trombone mouthpieces we offer. Huge sound on tenor trombone. Excellent choice for the bass trombone player who doubles on tenor trombone. Very popular euphonium mouthpiece.
    ID 1.056 inches, 26.82 mm
    Throat .275 inches, 7 mm
    Bach 3G
    D Elliott 104I
    Schilke 53, 5.3
    Yamaha 53
    Thank you so much! I ve tested Schilke 60 (simil to 1 1/2?) but I think is just too big, dont like the tone

  4. Just visited one of the stores today and they are out of Schilke and Dennis Wick until they recieve a new lote What they have right now is Bach 5g and Bag 5GS, they look pretty good, what are your opinions with those? I forgot to mention that I play in a Compensated 4 valved Jinbao copy of the Yamaha. Thank you again!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshealejo View Post
    Thank you so much! I ve tested Schilke 60 (simil to 1 1/2?) but I think is just too big, dont like the tone

    Try a Bach 2g. If you have Skype, and good internet, try video recording yourself playing on both instruments, and send the video to Doug Elliott. http://www.dougelliottmouthpieces.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickF View Post
    [snip]There is a Yamaha performing artist I know in NY who plays both tuba and euphonium and he likes the Schilke 60 on euphonium. That's a huge mouthpiece for euphonium. It works for him but I think that's because he is used to playing tuba more. A mouthpiece that big would make the higher notes even harder to obtain than the mouthpieces you've tried already.[snip].
    Walter Barrett (NYC metropolitan area), plays a Yamaha 641 using a Doug Elliott 114 rim (I think the rest of the mouthpiece is J cup and J8 shank, but I'm not sure). He has told me that he used to play a Schilke 60. Walter's main instruments are trombone and euphonium, and while I've known him to play bass trombone, and I wouldn't doubt that he can play tuba, I've never heard him mention it as his main instrument.

    Walter has a very smooth range from the pedal tones to concert C5 (and likely, higher than that; that's just the highest I've heard him play when I've been in his section). I asked him about his choice of such a large mouthpiece, and he said something to the effect that it felt right to him.
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  7. I am also a fan of the Wick euphonium mouthpieces, I'll second the 4AL. However, before you make a decision, you should try a Schilke 51D (or even 52), and a Bach/Faxx 4G and/or 5G. Those are just a few "standard" euphonium mouthpieces that everyone should give a try at some point.

    Good luck! If all else fails, work really hard on the mouthpiece you have and make it work. Any piece of equipment works better with practice.
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    Thanks Dean,

    Yes, that was Walter Barrett I was referring to. Walt used to post here from time to time (aka 'WaltTrombone') but haven't seen him post in quite awhile.
    Rick Floyd
    Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc
    YEP-641S (recently sold)
    Doug Elliott - 102 rim; I-cup; I-9 shank


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    Don't forget the UIM/CKB/King (same mp) version of the 5G. Here's a link to the last discussion we have about it and a couple of places where it is available for a great price.

    http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...G#.V4WrX_krKM8

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/King-5G-Trom...c=1&rmvSB=true

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/CKB-5G-Bass-...c=1&rmvSB=true

  10. That one is deeper than the bach 5G right? I thinking to buy than one to try

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