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Thread: Conn Naked Lady 3-Valve Euphonium

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    Conn Naked Lady 3-Valve Euphonium

    How good is a Conn Naked Lady 3-Valve Euphonium for about $350 with minnor dents

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    Just as good as any vintage Conn 3-valve euphonium, but with a nice engraving.

    http://forums.chisham.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64647

    Personally, I think if you are looking for a vintage 3-valve horn, this would be a very nice price if it is really in good condition.
    Martin Monné
    • Wessex Festivo, 4-valve compensating (2017)
    • Hirsbrunner HBS 378 Standard, 4-valve compensating (1983)
    • Mahillon Bass Saxhorn, 4-valve (1927)
    • Anton Hüller Tenor Horn, 3-valve (Early 20th Century, HP, wallhanger)


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    Agreed - that is a good price, assuming the valves are good and you don't see evidence of any tubing damage (other than minor denting), such as holes, really bad soldering someplace, etc. Even those may not be dis-qualifiers, but you'd want to move cautiously.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
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    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

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    If you don't mind a uniformed man engraving instead of a naked lady, this Pan American 3-valve is an outstanding buy at $250:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1939-Pan-Ame.../322123494900?
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

  5. Without more detail, I have a hard time answering the original poster. The "Naked Lady" is just an engraving used over a certain period of years. It was applied to a number of different models. If the horn in question is a 4 valve, with good finish, good compression, and has a removeable bell, then $350 is a good price. If it is a 3 valve with solid bell (front) and worn valves, then it is not so much.

    I agree with Dave that the Pan American is exceptionally nice. I had a 1932 Pan American 56I (bell and valves up) that I donated to Charley Brighton, in the UK. It was an old beater that I had fixed up in 1974 when I got out of college. It had metal patches, replated valves of questionable quality, and lacquer finish that had quite a bit of wear. Notwithstanding, the horn played well, in tune, and had a wonderful singing sound.

    Doug
    Sterling Virtuoso 1052HS & Adams E3 Prototype 0.70 Top Sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1050HS baritone
    New England Brass Band
    Winchendon Winds/Townsend Military Band

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    1937, 3 valve, removeable bell, original valves

  7. From the Conn Loyalist website,

    https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnArticle43.html

    "Naked Lady. There is no Naked Lady model. "Naked Lady" refers to the style of engraving that often appeared on the instruments. In spite of persistent rumor to the contrary, Dr. margaret Downie-Banks, an acknowledged expert on all things Elkhart-Conn, insists that the presence or absence of a so-called "Naked Lady" engraving or the degree of naked-ness has absolutely no relation to the instrument in terms of quality or otherwise. These "Naked Lady" engravings are usually found on "Standard" series saxophones, hence the incorrect idea that the engraving signifies that model and/or a better built instrument. The Naked Lady engraving can also frequently be found on Conn euphoniums and sousaphones, but only very rarely on Conn cornets, trumpets or trombones of the same period."

  8. Greetings all. I just purchased one of these and am curious about the best mouthpiece. Any ideas? Thanks.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard III View Post
    Greetings all. I just purchased one of these and am curious about the best mouthpiece. Any ideas? Thanks.

    Richard
    The go-to mouthpiece for instruments like this would be the Bach 6-1/2AL. If you want a little larger mouthpiece, I would not go larger than a Bach 5G.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

  10. Thanks. I just want to get the correct shank and corresponding best response out of the old horn.

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