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  1. Old Russian marches and waltzes

    The concert band of the Ministry of defense of the USSR on TV in the 70's.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d_fXCUCEviU

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    What a lovely set of recordings.

    It is interesting how the low brass followed the German 'Kaiser' pattern back then.

    Dennis

  3. I just recently purchased one of those oval baritones from the Ukraine on ebay. The price was so low, and the horn was in such good shape, it was automatic. It has all of its original hardware and mouthpiece (including its original rotor thumbscrews, which are the first item to get lost), and no dents, just a couple of usual dings and the lacquer worn off, which lets me know it was actually played. At 2:45 into the video linked, the second piece of the broadcast, is a baritone section passage. The horn I purchased sounds exactly like what you hear in the recording. I think I'll try to get an Oktoberfest gig with it, as we have a town near hear that is historically a German settlement, with all of the celebrations attendant to the occasion. The horn is a great addition to the main horns for fun and occasional gigs.

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    Thanks - brings back memories! In 1989 the Coast Guard Band performed in the USSR, and in some cases shared the stage with the Leningrad (i.e. St. Petersburg) Military District Band. Here is a video of the latter doing the Autumn Dream that you refer to above:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNPMglCxtaw

    And from a couple years later, here is the CG Band doing the same piece at Midwest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJX39gwwC7U

    The vibrato used by the LMDW was more robust than we used at the time, and the section there consisted of 2 of the baritones discussed in this thread plus 1 euphonium. Their sound was wonderful, and made even better by the arrangements, which usually used the 2 sections in harmony.
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    They all play so motionless and seemingly effortless...still you can hear the emotion in the music. Excellent!

    The conductor (the first one) looks so happy and content.
    Last edited by MarChant; 05-15-2016 at 01:08 AM.

  6. Here is the beautiful old waltz "On the hills of Manchuria " dedicated to fallen Russian soldiers in the Russo Japanese war (1905).

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh4pFYVneX8

    it's Defence Ministery Band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trombo View Post
    The concert band of the Ministry of defense of the USSR on TV in the 70's.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d_fXCUCEviU
    This strikes me as excellent Russian military bands playing rather silly German waltzes and march music.

    You want Russian? Go with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QZFzK2BFyE.
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  8. All these marches and waltzes written Russian military conductors XIX century. But we must understand that some of them were Germans. Even the Russian Tsars who loved militarily music and themselves played the wind instruments were at 90 percent by the Germans. Nicholas I and II played cornet, Alexander III played trombone, baritone and tuba.
    Russian military music is divided into 3 stages: stage I: imitation of German military music, stage II - the creation of an original Russian military music, and stage III - the creation of the Soviet military music.
    March Farewell of Slavianka applies to the 2nd stagey. This is a purely Russian March in minor, not major as the German marches. March Farewell of Slavianka known all over the world. It is a symbol of Russia as the Moscow Kremlin and Red square.*In 2012, Russia celebrated 100 years of the March Farewell of Slavianka. The March was written in 1912 by conductor Vasily Agapkin inspired by the events of the First Balkan war.
    I wanted to introduce Western musicians with little-known Russian marches and waltzes.
    Last edited by Trombo; 05-29-2016 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trombo View Post
    All these marches and waltzes written Russian military conductors XIX century.
    What do you mean? They play at least two pieces written by nothing like Russians:

    - 2. is "Autumn Dream" by Archibald Joyce from the United kingdom
    - 4. is "Above the Waves" by J. Rosas from Mexico

  10. My apologies. I thought it was Russian military conductors, the Germans by nationality.

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