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  1. Question Old Besson~ Help!

    Four years ago I bought an old 3 + 1 Besson off of the Tuba Exchange. There was no specifics about it when I bought it, but a teacher advised me and said I should jump on the deal.
    Now I'm looking to sell, but find it hard with not specifics, I was also young and dumb and didn't keep a copy of the purchase to prove its worth.
    If you have any information at all it would be greatly appreciated!

    My mouthpiece is a Denis Wick. London SM4M.

    Thanks!
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    Last edited by Jocelynnrose94; 01-26-2016 at 07:01 PM.

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    That looks like the "New Standard" model. The serial number shows on the rear of the bell in your photo, and it dates the horn to 1973. That should mean that the mouthpiece shank is the European size, or medium size.

    It's hard to say the value. There are a couple dents, but I don't any that look serious.

    To know for sure about the value, you would need to provide good photos of the valve pistons. If they are worn out, then that takes hundreds off the value. But if the valves are good, then I have seen these sell from $1,600 to $2,500. If they are nearly perfect they might bring a little more.

    I'm moving this thread to the For Sale section, which is where it should be.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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  3. Thanks!

    Thank you for sharing!
    And I apologize for posting in the wrong section, I'm new.

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    Too bad you need to sell it, that is one of their best, I'll never sell mine...

    Dennis
    3 notes and the truth.

    1966 Besson 181 highly modified New Standard, early model Wick 4AL
    1918 Hawkes & Son euph 3&1 original
    1917 Conn C/D/Eb mellophone original
    1915 York Bb tenorhorn original, Bach 5GS

  5. I haven't decided for sure if I want to sell it. But I hate seeing it just sit. I don't even know where to start with this selling process.

  6. You have a Besson New Standard manufactured between 1970 and 1974. I would agree with Dave's estimate of price at around $2,500. I am surprised to see a polished silver finish since these were usually either brass or satin silver. Is the receiver a "medium" or bass trombone shank? If bass trombone, I would suggest that this horn is nearer 1974 than 1970. Generally, these do fairly well on eBay.
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    I don't know where you live, but you might reach out to a forum member who was looking for a used Besson:
    http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...n#.VqgDnCorLIU

  8. I think its a medium receiver. My mouthpiece is a Denis Wick. London SM4M.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Jocelynnrose94 View Post
    I think its a medium receiver. My mouthpiece is a Denis Wick. London SM4M.
    Definitely a Medium Receiver (which would be my preference). I would guess the horn is in the earlier range of 1970-74.
    Sterling Virtuoso 1052HS & Adams E3 Prototype 0.70 Top Sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1050HS baritone
    New England Brass Band
    Winchendon Winds/Townsend Military Band

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