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    Thumbs up FS: Really Pretty 1918 Couturier Euphonium - 3-Valves - Silver

    Below is the seller's description of this rare instrument, but look at the photos here and in the post. What a lovely-looking instrument! Experienced seller is very highly rated. Buy-it-now is $650 but there is also a bid button.

    THE HORN SOLD FOR $600

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Plated-Couturier-Baritone-1918-LaPorte-Idianna-/321652678712

    This Couturier Baritone was made in La Porte Indiana in 1918, Serial # 2042, This horn is silver plated, This is a very rare example in excellent condition of a conical bore baritone, This horn is in good playing condition, Valves and slides move freely, The length of the instrument is 26.5", The bell diameter is 11", This instrument needs no repair and was recently checked at Meridian Winds, The case is used but in good working condition as seen in photos, Couturier mouthpiece is included as seen in photos, Thanks for your interest!

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    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
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    I love the shapes of the valve tubing on that instrument. It's as much a beautiful piece of design as it is an instrument. It's probably a high pitch horn, but what a beautiful thing.
    3-valve Blessing B-350 Euphonium

  3. The Couturier's had conical tubing from beginning to end. The idea was one could get a better sound by having conical shape to the slide tubing. Thus, as you can see, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd valve slides cannot be pulled for tuning. There is a tuning slide in the leadpipe and one after the leadpipe. I have never played one of these horns. If it is indeed high pitch, it would be virtually impossible to alter because you couldn't easily lengthen the valve tubing.
    Sterling Virtuoso 1052HS & Adams E3 Prototype 0.70 Top Sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1050HS baritone
    New England Brass Band
    Winchendon Winds/Townsend Military Band

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    Quote Originally Posted by daruby View Post
    The Couturier's had conical tubing from beginning to end. The idea was one could get a better sound by having conical shape to the slide tubing. Thus, as you can see, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd valve slides cannot be pulled for tuning. There is a tuning slide in the leadpipe and one after the leadpipe. I have never played one of these horns. If it is indeed high pitch, it would be virtually impossible to alter because you couldn't easily lengthen the valve tubing.
    Those horns are museum pieces, really. The design is artistic and the concept for them is fascinating. I can't be sure it's high pitch, but that's likely. Either way, though, some collector is bound to grab this.
    3-valve Blessing B-350 Euphonium

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    I'm not sure I can explain myself logically, but, no kidding, if my house had more space I'd own that horn by now. It just "called" to me. Hey, even my wife thought I should get it!
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
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    Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    I'm not sure I can explain myself logically, but, no kidding, if my house had more space I'd own that horn by now. It just "called" to me. Hey, even my wife thought I should get it!
    I understand that completely. Logic doesn't come into play at all.
    3-valve Blessing B-350 Euphonium

  7. So Dave. Just get it! You know what they say. A man can never have enough euphoniums!
    Sterling Virtuoso 1052HS & Adams E3 Prototype 0.70 Top Sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1050HS baritone
    New England Brass Band
    Winchendon Winds/Townsend Military Band

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    Quote Originally Posted by daruby View Post
    So Dave. Just get it! You know what they say. A man can never have enough euphoniums!
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    YouTube: dwerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    Twitter: davewerden
    Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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    I bought the horn at the reserve price of $600. My hope is that it will be a companion to my 1910 high pitch horn and I can play euphonium duets with a friend. But, I'm also thinking "what have I got myself into"? Getting the valves aligned and keeping it clean will be a real challenge. I suppose an ultrasonic bath is the way to go. - Carroll

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbogast View Post
    My hope is that it will be a companion to my 1910 high pitch horn and I can play euphonium duets with a friend. But, I'm also thinking "what have I got myself into"?
    Well, I don't believe that you've thought this through since there is still further to go with it.

    First, you can begin to organize period instrument groups in your area so that you'll have others you can play in tune with. That in turn will encourage you to make more acquisitions of this sort.

    Second, you need to be able to play with accompaniment. If you have a piano, you probably don't want to re-tune it to the higher pitch since then you wouldn't be able to use it with your modern instruments. So you should start looking for another piano you can tune to the high pitch. Or maybe a nice harpsichord. This could be expensive (and you might end up needing a larger house as well -- which is more added expense), but there's another more economical alternative: Get a decent electronic keyboard where you can adjust the pitch appropriately.

    I think that these are the directions you on which you should now focus. I'm just trying to be helpful.
    Gary Merrill
    Wessex EEb Bass tuba (Denis Wick 3XL)
    Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
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    1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba, modified Kelly 25
    Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K9/112 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
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