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    Bell Engraving*

    This is a good chance to discuss bell engraving. It had become almost a lost art for a while in the brass world. Now you can actually get such a thing on a new horn, and a few years ago I noticed that Brasswind had that as an option during horn overhauls (not sure if it is still offered).

    So first, would you like to have elaborate engraving on a horn?

    Second, DO you have such a thing (old or new) in your collection? Photos would be fun!

    And third, please mention if you know of this as an option from other new horn makers.

    Here is a photo from Musikmesse in Europe. Adams is offering this now, although I don't know if it would look right on my brushed finish. It looks pretty special on this bright finish horn, though. Shown in the photo is Olivier Haas, an Adams artist, but I think that is a display horn he's playing.
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    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
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    I admire the look, and I admire the art. But it's not something I'd ever get for myself -- any more than I would go (or ever would have gone) that direction with engraved firearms. I see those things as primarily for hanging on a wall or in a display case -- not for actually using. To me, it's like engraving my favorite hammer. It neither makes it a better hammer, nor does it make a hammer into a piece of fine jewelry.

    Don't get me wrong: I don't look down on anyone who does this. It's just not something I'd do. But I also wouldn't avoid buying an instrument that was engraved. I'm just pretty utilitarian in these things.
    Gary Merrill
    Wessex EEb Bass tuba (Denis Wick 3XL)
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  3. I love custom engraving. Bob Childs has a custom engraved new Besson Prestige 2052, completely gold plated. Roland Froescher had a York Eminence in lacquer (and black nickel trim) that had quite a bit of custom engraving. The only thing I have o any f my horns is my name engrave on the 1st valve side of my Sterling.

    Doug
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    Hmm . . . wonder where I could get some nekkid ladies, like old Mr. Towsley had on his gold-plated double-bell Conn. Just a thought . . .
    David Bjornstad

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    Check out http://www.artisticengraving.com/tubas-sousaphones (the BSO tuba bell in the lower right corner is particularly neat).

    Frank
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    Thanks, Frank. It's nice to see an independent company offering this, too. There are a couple of fun videos on how it's done here:

    http://www.artisticengraving.com/
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghmerrill View Post
    I admire the look, and I admire the art. But it's not something I'd ever get for myself -- any more than I would go (or ever would have gone) that direction with engraved firearms. I see those things as primarily for hanging on a wall or in a display case -- not for actually using. To me, it's like engraving my favorite hammer. It neither makes it a better hammer, nor does it make a hammer into a piece of fine jewelry.

    Don't get me wrong: I don't look down on anyone who does this. It's just not something I'd do. But I also wouldn't avoid buying an instrument that was engraved. I'm just pretty utilitarian in these things.
    Did you just call your horn a "hammer"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anson View Post
    Did you just call your horn a "hammer"?
    Yes. I thought that calling it an "axe" would be trite.
    Gary Merrill
    Wessex EEb Bass tuba (Denis Wick 3XL)
    Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
    Amati Oval Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J6 euph)
    1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba, modified Kelly 25
    Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K9/112 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
    1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Olds #3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghmerrill View Post
    I admire the look, and I admire the art. But it's not something I'd ever get for myself -- any more than I would go (or ever would have gone) that direction with engraved firearms. I see those things as primarily for hanging on a wall or in a display case -- not for actually using. To me, it's like engraving my favorite hammer. It neither makes it a better hammer, nor does it make a hammer into a piece of fine jewelry.

    Don't get me wrong: I don't look down on anyone who does this. It's just not something I'd do. But I also wouldn't avoid buying an instrument that was engraved. I'm just pretty utilitarian in these things.
    ^^^This. I tend to worry more about how much practice time I get in rather than engraving. Reminds me of a video I saw on FB of a guy who wanted Maynard Ferguson to engrave - with one of those buzz-engravers - his signature on the bell of the guy's horn. Maynard did so, but I'm pretty sure it didn't make the guy a better player.
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