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Originally posted by daruby
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Interesting. I did notice that, although smooth and quiet, the upstroke seems a little "bouncier" than normal with the new felts sans the cork shim. Maybe I will give the synthetic felts a try. Thank you for this very helpful info.Bob Tampa FL USA
Euph -- 1984 B&H Round Stamp Sovereign 967 / 1978 Besson NS 767 / Early 90s Sterling MP: 4AL and GW Carbonaria
Tuba -- 2014 Wisemann 900 CC / 2013 Mack 410 MP: Blokepiece Symphony American Shank and 33.2 #2 Rim -
Be aware that there is a range of firmness or "bounciness" available in the synthetic materials (as there is with bumper material for rotary instruments). To some degree these are color coded. Most of these that are readily available (e.g., from places like J. L. Smith) seem to be made by Valentino (which also makes synthetic water key "corks" of which I think very highly). The "felts" and "corks" seem to be color coded, though I'm not sure how reliable that is. My synthetic "corks" (i.e., used where a valve stem cork would be in my euphonium) are black and pretty firm. One of the felts I use (now in the Eb tuba as well) is less firm and is gray. And an even less firm one (which I'm using in the valve cap) is white. I tried the black ones in different places, but got a "whump! whump!" effect from the valves that I found a little jarring and distracting
. There is a trade-off between robustness on the one hand, and noise and feel on the other.
Gary Merrill
Wessex EEb Bass tuba (DW 3XL or 2XL)
Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
Amati Oval Euph (DE 104, Euph J, J6 euph)
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba (with std US receiver), Kelly 25
Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K10/112/14 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Olds #3)Comment
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Thank you very much for this additonal info as well as the source. Probably will research it a bit and stock up on a couple different ones (based on your experience) and experiment a bit by trial and error -- shouldn't break the bank too badly and will be a learning experience!Bob Tampa FL USA
Euph -- 1984 B&H Round Stamp Sovereign 967 / 1978 Besson NS 767 / Early 90s Sterling MP: 4AL and GW Carbonaria
Tuba -- 2014 Wisemann 900 CC / 2013 Mack 410 MP: Blokepiece Symphony American Shank and 33.2 #2 RimComment
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Here is the really valuable information source -- that for some reason is quite difficult to find on the site. Sorry I don't have a better link to it, but this one always seems to work:
Valve washer sizing chartGary Merrill
Wessex EEb Bass tuba (DW 3XL or 2XL)
Mack Brass Compensating Euph (DE N106, Euph J, J9 euph)
Amati Oval Euph (DE 104, Euph J, J6 euph)
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba (with std US receiver), Kelly 25
Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone (DE LB K/K10/112/14 Lexan, Brass Ark MV50R)
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Olds #3)Comment
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Got it Thanks a lot!Originally posted by ghmerrill View PostBob Tampa FL USA
Euph -- 1984 B&H Round Stamp Sovereign 967 / 1978 Besson NS 767 / Early 90s Sterling MP: 4AL and GW Carbonaria
Tuba -- 2014 Wisemann 900 CC / 2013 Mack 410 MP: Blokepiece Symphony American Shank and 33.2 #2 RimComment
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Updated first post. I ordered quite a few more sets. I will update again when they arrive.Christopher Chen
bolded are for sale
B&H 967 - Globe Stamp
B&H 960 (3 valve comp euph) - Globe Stamp
Salvation Army Triumphonic Eb Alto, silver plated
On the lookout for:
Silver plated:
pre '93, post '06 Sovereign Alto/Tenor Horn
pre '93, post '06 Sovereign Baritone (3 valve)
York/Sterling/LMI variants acceptedComment
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updated post, 9 sets available.Christopher Chen
bolded are for sale
B&H 967 - Globe Stamp
B&H 960 (3 valve comp euph) - Globe Stamp
Salvation Army Triumphonic Eb Alto, silver plated
On the lookout for:
Silver plated:
pre '93, post '06 Sovereign Alto/Tenor Horn
pre '93, post '06 Sovereign Baritone (3 valve)
York/Sterling/LMI variants acceptedComment
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