Confusion with Alliance Products

[pam]

Confusion with Alliance Products

Originally posted by: bbocaner

No. The euphonium 4 is not a prestige model even though it is pretty much identical in all respects except rim size to the 2 and 3. Why? Not developed by SM.

Baritone 6 is shipped with the prestige baritone. NOT a prestige model mouthpiece. The 5 is. The gourlay-developed tuba mouthpieces are labeled prestige even though there are no besson prestige tubas.

It's certainly possible that Roger Webster either misspoke or misremembered in his reply to my e-mail inquiry.

[euphool]

Confusion with Alliance Products

Measuring cup diam with pin point calipers & cup volume with a 12ml syringe my DC2 measures 26.75 mm & 10 ml and my 4 AL 26.5 & 10 ml respectivly. But how is that important musically!?

[TexEuph96]

Confusion with Alliance Products

So which mouthpiece from Alliance would equate to a Denis Wick SM 3.5? I'm thinking of depth and rim diameter. Would it be the standard 2a or the prestige 2a?

[daruby]

Confusion with Alliance Products

Standard 2a would be closer to the 3.5 Wick. The Prestige 2E is closer to a Wick 3.

[TexEuph96]

Confusion with Alliance Products

Thanks for the info, my teacher thought it was time for me to move up in size so i thought I should bring out my SM 3.5 from years ago which was too big. Now it feels just right but i like to have another option with me so an alliance and/or ultra seems like the best addition to my setup.

[daruby]

Specs on Alliance Euphonium Mouthpieces

Well, many years later, but I now own both an E3 Prestige and E3A Standard. I also once owned a DC3. All are(were) silver with gold rim and cup. I sold the DC3 some time ago. At one point, I even owned a B6 baritone mouthpiece. It was sold as well.

Overall, I cannot tell the difference between the E3 and E3A. I "suspect" the difference may be some kind of royalty due Steven. I found that the E3(A) plays a bit bigger than the DC3 and have sharper rims. I think that is pretty much it.

The specs and prices are below:

Alliance E3A - Gold Rim and Cup
Cup Diameter: 26 mm
Rim: 6.78 mm
Bore: 7.4 mm
Cup: Standard
Comparison: Denis Wick Classic SM4 and Ultra SM4U, Bach 4G, Schilke 52D
£88.30 (excl VAT)

Alliance E3 Prestige - Gold Rim and Cup
Cup Diameter: 26 mm
Rim: 6.78 mm
Bore: 7.4 mm
Cup: Deep
Comparison: Denis Wick Classic SM4 and Ultra SM4U, Bach 4G, Schilke 52D
£100.32 (excl VAT)

Alliance David Childs DC3 - Gold Rim and Cup
Cup Diameter: 26 mm
Rim: 6.73 mm
Bore: 7.45 mm
Cup: Deep
Comparison: Denis Wick Classic 4AL and Ultra SM4U, Bach 4G
£119.23 (excl VAT)