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  1. Is there a complete list of alternate fingerings?

    I would like to know my options in terms of tuning and overall convenience in terms of fingerings. Bass clef.


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    Is there a complete list of alternate fingerings?

    Keep an eye on Cimarron Music. They should have my Euphonium Fingering Guide within the next couple of weeks (not sure of the final title yet). It has a complete fingering chart for treble and bass clef, 3 and 4 valve, compensating and non-compensating. It also has some useful alternate fingerings (both for intonation and technique), and some real excerpts with examples of applications for the alternate fingerings.

    New items at Cimarron appear on the home page usually:

    http://cimarronmusic.com/

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    Is there a complete list of alternate fingerings?

    While we're on the subject of fingerings, we all know that the 7th partial (high Ab on an open horn) is not used in tempered tuning because it is flat. But do the pros ever use the 7th-partial alternate fingerings (2nd valve for G, 1st valve for Gb) in fast passages, given that 1) they would be easier than 1-2 and 2-3, respectively, and 2) the note is so brief that its flatness wouldn't be noticed?



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    Is there a complete list of alternate fingerings?

    DaveBj,

    Of course! If it works, use it - that's my motto. You have to consider the context. For example, if running notes peak on that partial and then come down, the flatness might be more obvious. But I've always been willing to try anything that comes to mind and see how it sounds.

    The now-famous opening of Pineapple Poll has a very easy alternate fingering, using 4 to 124 to 4 to 124 etc. (or 34 instead of 124). That would sound stuffy in a solo work, but because it is part of a low woodwind ensemble it works fine. Context.

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    Is there a complete list of alternate fingerings?

    Our band is playing "Universal Judgment" (Camille De Nardis) at our next concert and alternate fingerings really help make it easier for me... and for the tuba players too!
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