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  • majorchubbs
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 56

    Allied Baritone Valve Springs

    Will the Allied A380 Baritone Valve Springs work for a Besson 967 euph? I would rather pay $5 for 12 than $30-$40 for 4 Mead Springs.

  • bpwilliams
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 149

    #2
    Allied Baritone Valve Springs

    Jeff,
    I will sell you four slightly used Mead springs for $20.00

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    • majorchubbs
      Member
      • May 2011
      • 56

      #3
      Allied Baritone Valve Springs

      Thank you, BP. I have ordered the Allied springs, and if they don't work I will use them on some of the local middle school horn that I clean and minor fix.

      How long did you you use the Mesd springs? Did you like them?

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      • bpwilliams
        Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 149

        #4
        Allied Baritone Valve Springs

        I used them for a few weeks. The Mead springs felt very light and very fast (I usually use heavy duty springs). Since my euphonium needs some valve work, using the Mead springs resulted in some sticky/sluggish valve action (my fingers liked them, but my valves did not).

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        • daruby
          Moderator
          • Apr 2006
          • 2217

          #5
          Allied Baritone Valve Springs

          I've been using the Mead springs in my Besson 2051 for a couple of years now. Love 'em. Very quiet and light. The valves feel almost like the valves on my old Bach Strad trumpet, they are so quick and light.

          Doug
          Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
          Concord Band
          Winchendon Winds
          Townsend Military Band

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          • Fletch
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 7

            #6
            Allied Baritone Valve Springs

            I have been using the Mead springs for just over a year on my Miraphone 1258a and they are great. Could not find anyone that could get Miraphone springs for me so I got these. Glad I did, very fast and quiet.

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            • Snorlax
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1003

              #7
              Allied Baritone Valve Springs

              Guess what absent-minded professor got his Meads all out of order & now can't remember which was which?
              Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
              Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
              bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
              Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
              Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
              Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
              www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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              • Euphdad
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 156

                #8
                Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                Anyone try these in a Miraphone 5050 ?

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                • Snorlax
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1003

                  #9
                  Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                  I had the Meads in my 5050, liked them, took them out to clean the horn, reached for my cup of tea, knocked the Meads over, and couldn't remember which one went to which valve. How smart was that?
                  Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
                  Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
                  bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
                  Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
                  Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
                  Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
                  www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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                  • RickF
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3871

                    #10
                    Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                    Jim,

                    I have to ask... are you sure it was a cup of tea? Just kidding.

                    I would think the gauge of the spring would be a bit thicker for number one. No?
                    Rick Floyd
                    Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                    "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                    Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                    El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                    The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                    Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)
                    ​

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                    • Snorlax
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1003

                      #11
                      Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                      Unfortunately, yes...green tea.
                      Holiday best to you! ;-)
                      Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
                      Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
                      bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
                      Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
                      Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
                      Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
                      www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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                      • Euphdad
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 156

                        #12
                        Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                        OK Jim, how were they prior to the senior moment :-)) ? Did you notice a difference between the Mead's and the Niraphones ?

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                        • Snorlax
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1003

                          #13
                          Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                          Well, if I remembered, I wouldn't have to come on the forum here and confess! ;-)
                          SO...anyone care to tell me which is which? I hope there's a way to distinguish.
                          I know which one is #4. ;-0
                          Yes, I did prefer them over the original Miraphones.
                          Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
                          Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
                          bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
                          Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
                          Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
                          Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
                          www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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                          • davewerden
                            Administrator
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 11142

                            #14
                            Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                            I have a brand-new set at home. Let me look at them later or this weekend. Maybe there is some easy way to tell them apart once they are unwrapped and in use. I know when I clean my horn, I have never had to keep track of the spring/valve relationships, and I sure don't want to have to start!

                            Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                            Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                            Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                            Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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                            • Euphdad
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 156

                              #15
                              Allied Baritone Valve Springs

                              I assume that you can use a sharpie and mark them in some way that would not make a difference in their performance.

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