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    Unfortunately, yes...green tea.
    Holiday best to you! ;-)
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    Allied Baritone Valve Springs

    OK Jim, how were they prior to the senior moment :-)) ? Did you notice a difference between the Mead's and the Niraphones ?

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    Well, if I remembered, I wouldn't have to come on the forum here and confess! ;-)
    SO...anyone care to tell me which is which? I hope there's a way to distinguish.
    I know which one is #4. ;-0
    Yes, I did prefer them over the original Miraphones.
    Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meters)
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    Allied Baritone Valve Springs

    I have a brand-new set at home. Let me look at them later or this weekend. Maybe there is some easy way to tell them apart once they are unwrapped and in use. I know when I clean my horn, I have never had to keep track of the spring/valve relationships, and I sure don't want to have to start!

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    Allied Baritone Valve Springs

    I assume that you can use a sharpie and mark them in some way that would not make a difference in their performance.

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    Thanks, Dave!
    I would welcome that info.

    I know which spring is #4; I had gotten it in before the "great tea cup caper."

    A quick look from the other side of the desk shows one spring that is shorter than the other two, one spring that seems to have five loops, and another of the same height but with only four loops.

    IIRC, the small end faces down, yes?

    Sheepishly...
    Jim W.
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    Jim...the springs go in order of strongest (most loops and lobest) to weakest, numbers 1-2-3...The theory is that your index finger is strongest and the third valve finger weakest.

    Doug
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    Allied Baritone Valve Springs

    Originally posted by: Snorlax Thanks, Dave! I would welcome that info. I know which spring is #4; I had gotten it in before the "great tea cup caper." A quick look from the other side of the desk shows one spring that is shorter than the other two, one spring that seems to have five loops, and another of the same height but with only four loops. IIRC, the small end faces down, yes? Sheepishly... Jim W.
    Jim, I'd think that the small end faces UP in the bottom of the valve. At least, that's what I usually do when I put the horn together after cleaning it....



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    I wanna tell you all something...

    I figured I'd go straight to the source and ask Mr. Mead himself.

    I sent the email to him early this afternoon and had a response WITHIN 15 MINUTES!!!

    According to the source, the springs go tallest in #1 to shortest in #3. #1 is only a bit taller than #2.

    And it doesn't make a difference which end is up, according to Mr. Mead.

    Did I ever appreciate his instant response!!!

    Jim W.
    Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meters)
    Yamaha 642-II Neo, Wedge 103E, SM3.5
    Yamaha 321, Yamaha 621 Baritone
    Conn 50H trombone
    Blue P-bone
    www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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    Truth be told, I mixed them up too, but was afraid to ask.
    So thanks for asking.

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