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    Valve oil

    Originally posted by: Snorlax

    So that green slime that appears in the ports of my valves is residue from the Hetman's?
    The first time I had Hetman applied to my valves was when Lee Stofer aligned them at TUSABTEC '09. Three days later, I momentarily non-plussed to discover waxy yellow rings in the ports of all four valves when I went to re-oil them.

    I presume the residue was from the Hetman's, as opposed to an interaction between Hetman's and the Blue Juice I had used previously, since Lee had wiped down the valves and swabbed the casings before aligning them and applying the Hetman's, and I had not squirted Blue Juice down the leadpipe in the interim.

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    I had pretty good luck with Hetman's for a while, but I started noticing inconsistent performance whenever seasons changed (never figured if it was the change in humidity or the change in temp).

    Al Cass has been working well for me. I tried mixing the two for a while, but the straight Al Cass has worked out best for my horn.


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    Valve oil

    Well, OK...I picked up a couple of bottles of the Yamaha oil today for my 5050. I'm going to bathe it later this week and get as much of the hetmans out as I can. That green portslime was not attractive.
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    Valve oil

    Originally posted by: JTJ I would use Blue Juice when I wanted a standard oil, but it to me smells, yet not to everyone it seems
    Oh, I wouldn't say I don't notice the smell . But I "grew up" with petroleum oil on my horns, so it doesn't bother me. I will say that Blue Juice may be a bit smellier than some petroleum oils. The only thing that really bothers me, I guess is the fact that it is blue. I like blue, but I wonder if this color is provided by an additive that is only cosmetic, in which case I'd be perfectly happy with a clear oil that worked as well. Obviously I am not a marketer by training, so I suppose Blue Juice sounds better than Clear Juice.

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    Valve oil

    I'll have to sample that yamaha synthetic oil. I remember that yamaha used to sell a conventional valve oil that smelled incredibly bad -- I always wondered if it was whale blubber or something.

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    Valve oil

    Dave, I find the smell simply awful, and wonder what causes it to be so strong. It seems to be more than a distillate smell.

    But man I like the valve action with Blue Juice!

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    Valve oil

    Originally posted by: JTJ Dave, I find the smell simply awful, and wonder what causes it to be so strong.
    John: I'm not sure why that would be. I have never stumbled upon the Blue Juice folks at a conference, but that would make for a good question.

    Given that allergies are very different from person to person, I'm wondering if a reaction as strong as yours could be due to your body trying to keep you away from something that is a physical threat at some level.

    Some churches I know have no-scent zones, and other public do that as well. Maybe bands will start having "synthetic-oil-only" zones

    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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    Al Cass for years. A medium oil with little smell and short lasting after taste. I use a squirt (5 drops ish) down the lead pipe every day then lightly blow straight air while fanning the valves. Once a week I apply directly, soaking the valves after a lint free cloth wipe down.

    I do miss the eye dropper they use to include (1970's flashback).



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  9. Valve oil

    I use Blue Juice as well!


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    Denis Wick right now. I've used Al Cass.
    Didn't like Zaja.
    Also used generic no name valve oil.

    Remember, valve oil shouldn't be used to fix your mechanical valve problems!

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