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  • Tubatasm
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 18

    Second Suite - Gustav Holst

    This features a Tuba playing (I think) four notes at the beginning of the piece, without any accompaniment. These four 16th notes (or is it 8th notes?) go through the band.

    Tuba also gets a simplified version of the melody later on.

    It's a cool piece, I suggest you listen to it or play it. =)
  • bearphonium
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 177

    #2
    Second Suite - Gustav Holst

    Second Suite in F for Milatary Band, "March".

    It is a fun piece to play, and there are some other movements that are fun. There is a cool euph solo in "Fantsaia on the Dargason" and "Song of the Blacksmith" has some interesting rythems in it.

    Back in the day when my band played it, I played trombone, so I didn't get either cool part

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    • Tubatasm
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 18

      #3
      Second Suite - Gustav Holst

      Yeah. Song of the Blacksmith is funky. =P

      Sadly, when we sight read it, our Euphonium player didn't have a TC part so he couldn't play it. =(

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      • daytontuba
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 2

        #4
        The first movement - March - has one of the most well known solo passages for Euphonium. It is beautifully written and shows off the full tonal qualities of the instrument. A true classic for any Euphonium player!

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        • davewerden
          Administrator
          • Nov 2005
          • 11138

          #5
          Originally posted by daytontuba View Post
          The first movement - March - has one of the most well known solo passages for Euphonium. It is beautifully written and shows off the full tonal qualities of the instrument. A true classic for any Euphonium player!
          I could not agree more! FYI, I just finished an arrangement of this for solo and piano (also includes the 2nd movement, Song without Words). It should be published before long by Cimarron Music Press. I'll try to remember to post here when it's ready.

          I played that new arrangement once already, but haven't had a chance to transcode the video. If I can get it done I'll post that as well.
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          • David Bloss
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 29

            #6
            I was in the same position (read treble clef, only part available bass clef) years ago. But since the music is so cool, and I WAS the euph section of that band at that time, I learned to read bass clef for that one suite. Well worth my time and effort.

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            • davewerden
              Administrator
              • Nov 2005
              • 11138

              #7
              Here is sheet music I referred to in my post above (the "Song without Words" and the "March" for euphonium and piano):

              http://www.cimarronmusic.com/two-holst-songs-13213

              Last edited by RickF; 03-05-2017, 09:42 AM. Reason: correct link
              Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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              • UCFEuph
                Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 35

                #8
                I've played Second Suite so many times that I practically got the Euphonium part memorized. It's a fun Euphonium part to play and although I'll jokingly say I hate it, I really like it. Someday I may record myself playing the entire Euphonium part by memory.
                Al
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                I play in various ensembles at Rollins College, the University of Central Florida, and anywhere else that needs either a Trombone or Euphonium player in the Central Florida area.

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                • ghmerrill
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 2384

                  #9
                  For the record ...

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                  And it's not A tuba. It's in unison .
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                  • RickF
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3871

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ghmerrill View Post
                    For the record ...

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                    And it's not A tuba. It's in unison .
                    That's an interesting part you shared Gary. I've heard from a former euphonium student of Dr. Brian Bowman that he has some of his students work on that short lick for up to two weeks until they get it perfect.
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                    • Jrpetty24
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 383

                      #11
                      I played that piece last semester at NMSU, and our arrangement was a unison tuba euph lick, I would agree that it took a long time to get it perfect individually and then to get four of us playing right together. I loved playing the entire work, it is lovely music throughout.
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                      • DaveBj
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1064

                        #12
                        Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                        Here is sheet music I referred to in my post above (the "Song without Words" and the "March" for euphonium and piano):

                        http://www.cimarronmusic.com/two-holst-songs-13213
                        I'm playing this at my recital in October, both movements.
                        Last edited by RickF; 03-05-2017, 09:44 AM.
                        David Bjornstad

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                        • davewerden
                          Administrator
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 11138

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DaveBj View Post
                          I'm playing this at my recital in October, both movements.
                          Excellent! Let us know how it goes.
                          Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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                          • DaveBj
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                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1064

                            #14
                            Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                            Excellent! Let us know how it goes.
                            Hopefully I'll have a video.
                            David Bjornstad

                            1923 Conn New Wonder 86I, Bach 6 1/2 AL
                            2018 Wessex EP100 Dolce, Denis Wick 4ABL
                            2013 Jinbao JBEP-1111L, Denis Wick 4AM
                            2015 Jinbao JBBR-1240, Denis Wick clone mouthpiece of unknown designation
                            Cullman (AL) Community Band (Euph Section Leader)
                            Brass Band of Huntsville (2nd Bari)

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