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    Playing and Dentures

    I have not found the topic of dentures and playing out on this forum so I thought I'd add it. I have personally been blessed by a full set of ivories but I know that many people have various forms dental work. Anyone's dental situation could change overnight as a result of an accident, extraction, etc. I was curious if dentures or other dental work may have such and adverse effect on one's playing ability that they'd have to give it up. Just wondering.

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    Playing and Dentures

    I recently broke a back molar (a perfectly healthy tooth - my dentist calls me "The Stone Crusher"), and had to have it extracted and replaced with an implantation and crown. In preparation for the post, I mentioned that I played and the oral surgeon made some adjustments that further reduced the risk that the nerve that runs in the jaw would be traumatized. I'm happy to report that the procedure went well and did not affect my playing in any way. And, with my new implant, I can now crush even larger and harder stones

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  3. Playing and Dentures

    Luckily I too have a full set of gnashers, but I have taken steps to ensure that any artificial teeth/plate/dentures required will replicate what I already have. Many years ago an acquaintance had a very nasty car accident, necessitating the rebuilding of her jaw; it seriously and permanently affected her brass playing, to the point where a professional career was no longer an option. I discussed this with my dentist, and he has made a mould of my existing dentition, so that if anything did happen, I could have my teeth put back in the same place, or jaw rebuilt with the same lumps and bumps that I am used to. Hope I never have to use it, but I have the location of the mould listed in my emergency contact info in my diary.

    Horry Philpott, a famous trombone player many years ago in Australia, was reputed to have played even better after he had his teeth replaced with dentures, some time in the 60s I believe (before my time!). I do know he played with the dentures out, as I saw him take them out and put them in his coat pocket many a time! He was an excellent brass band player too!

    Sue

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    This is an old thread but I'm an old guy. However I'm new on the forum. I just recently retired and have more discretionary time than before. I quit playing completely a little over 2 years ago. I had lost my front teeth and simply could not play with the partial that I had. Fast forward a couple of years and now I have full dentures, uppers and lowers. I cannot play with these in. For one thing they move on me and for another they take up so much room inside my mouth that it has completely changed the flow of air and I have not been able to compensate, so here is what I am attempting to do. I am completely starting over learning to play without any teeth or dentures. So far this is working. In my case a larger mouthpiece seems to be better than one with a smaller cup because I seem to be able to get more of the meat of my chops into the mouthpiece. Pretty much everything has changed except the fingering (slide positions on the trombone). Even tonguing has changed without teeth, My range sucks but is getting better little by little. An F fourth line bass clef was all I could play for the first 3 days. I'm about 3 weeks into this and my range is vastly improved and tone is good. I can't seem to get pedal tones to work for me (suggestions?). The best side effect is that I am playing without any noticeable pressure since I haven't teeth to press against. If there are others out there trying to do what I am I would appreciate any tips or anecdotes that you may have,

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    Welcome to the forum!

    I admire your ambition as you work your way through the new oral environment. You seem to by making good progress, so certainly keep that up. Learning to play with no pressure (well, there is always SOME, but we can get to minimal pressure) is great if you can do it. Your endurance should be better because of it because you would not be cutting off some of the circulation to your lips with the rim.

    I have no experience with this, but I'm pretty sure if I were in your boots I would try to re-introduce the dentures after your chops are stronger and your coordination is tuned up. It would surely be handier to not have to remove them before playing, but I understand the restrictions you describe. Still, it might be worth a try later!
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    Several years ago there was a tuba player in Fred Dart’s comm Band who had dentures. He took them out to play tuba. His tone was really good too. Maybe because his oral cavity was larger with no dentures to get in the way. I suspect it may be easier playing tuba without teeth due to the rim being larger.
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  8. Hello I am new to this forum. I've been a professional trombone player for many years. I've had some dental issues and I've had a few teeth extracted. After my last dental visit and extraction, when I want to play after healing up, I noticed that I had air leaking out of the side of my mouth. There was also a little air bubble that would form underneath my cheek above the mouthpiece. I'm concerned that the missing teeth have created such an air gap that air is leaking out one side and also getting trapped between my gum and my cheek forming that little bubble of air. The other problem is that my upper register has been seriously affected. I have generally been a lead player whether it be in a jazz band or orchestra situation so my upper register was always a strong point. Having my upper register go away has been very disturbing. My dentist wants to fit me with dentures and I'm concerned that will make things even worse. I'm investigating getting implants instead which of course is very expensive. I am 64 years old so age could be playing a part in some of this, but I have been looking forward into moving into retirement and continuing doing gigs with my quartet and other groups. Orchestra playing has not been affected at this point as it is not as demanding as when I'm playing my jazz gigs. I hope I can figure this out!

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    Well, I am a senior citizen with teeth that can be described as sort of crummy. My wisdom teeth are long gone, I have had many cavities, and I have had many root canals. Then I have had many crowns put on. And now I am working on my third implant (all three within the last five years). The implants are GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Expensive as all get out, but my wife and I have two dental insurance policies (she on mine, and me on hers), so we get most of that covered ($3,000+ per implant). I don't think I would ever settle or go for full dentures at the risk of ruining what playing years I have remaining. Plus I don't think I would like having to pull out my dentures (in front of who knows who) to play my horn. I can't imagine that it would work very well. I plan to keep playing till I am put in the ground. Implants to me, are absolutely the way to go for people who have generally crummy teeth with many cavities, crowns, root canals over the years. If I were to do it all over and implants were as well known as they are now, I might opt to get a full set of implants. It is expensive as heck, but you have to ask yourself, isn't it worth it if you really, really want to keep playing all of your life?
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