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    Oh, sorry, no, I didn't mean band music!. I don't play in bands, as they're not really a big thing here, except perhaps at school level.
    I did mean the darn orchestra music. I'm not anti modern music or anything - bit hard to be when most compositions for tuba are contemporary- but I just find Wozzeck really hard to get to grips with. I will admit ignorance of the Violin concerto, and will add it to my intended listening list; thanks for the recommendation.

    I haven't played in a band for a long time, but I do recall being scared witless by an Alfred Reed piece, something to do with the Kama Sutra? Too many notes and too fast! And the composer was out the front conducting! He wasn't sightreading, but I was. Scary! That was a fair few years ago, but I haven't forgotten the trauma yet.

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    If you want I can email you the score. I just downloaded it from imslp before it closed down. I'm sure you have it in your excerpts book, but a score can sometimes be handy when listening. I also recommend listening to Bach Cantata no 60 and the end choral "Es ist genug" which Alban Berg uses in the second movement. It is just ingenious how he uses the four modus operandi from the strict rules of the second Viennese School with the main theme from the choral.

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    Only this morning I heard an announcement on the radio of a live broadcast of the Berg Violin Concerto later this week: it was described as "one of the most emotional pieces of the twentieth century". Thanks for alerting me to this piece, Kjetil. I would love a copy of the score but I think my simple dial-up internet connection would not cope with the size of a full score! Thank you for the kind offer though. I am fairly sure that it is in the Torchinsky 20C excerpt book.
    I will admit I haven't given Berg a fair go; the prospect of playing his music is so terrifying! But there again, there's lots of music that once terrified me and now is almost ho-hum. Maybe I am starting out on a journey of discovery with Berg!

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    The score is in .pdf format and only 4.6MB.
    Long since I had a dial-up line. Nowadays it's more common with broadband. Mine is 2Mbps download and 350kbps upload.
    You should be able to view my email if you click on my avatar.

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    Kjetil, I tried to use your email addy in the avatar, but it bounced. Here's the info on tonight's live video stream of the Berg Concerto.
    Visit this page at 8.00 pm AEDT on Friday, 7 December 2007 for a live video stream of the Sydney Symphony Orchestra direct from the Sydney Opera House Concert Hall. [requires Windows Media Player]

    Frank Peter Zimmermann, violin
    Gianluigi Gelmetti, conductor
    Wagner Siegfried Idyll
    Berg Violin Concerto (To the Memory of an Angel)
    Schubert Symphony No 9 in C, D944 (Great C Major

    Apologies to other readers of this thread, I know it should be a private message, but I tried and it didn't work.

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    You can use this adress:

    That one whould work

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    Toughest music piece

    suetuba (and all):

    When you click on the avatar, you see a protected email address to make it hard for automated programs to harvest a bunch of emails from the forum.

    When you see an email address there, take out the word "REMOVE" from within the address.

    If your real email is:

    you will see it displayed something like:

    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
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    Owner of,

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    thanks for explaining that Dave. I did think it was an odd email address! I am such a computer dill that it didn't occur to me.

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    I know this is straying from the topic a bit...

    Sue, I had the opportunity (while in college and playing the French Horn) to have Alfred Reed come and conduct the "west coast premier" of the "Armenian Dances Part II". I was NOT sight reading it (thankfully!). We did a couple of other pieces that had been commisioned and composed for our band, also conducted by the composers--very intense experience!


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    Last week in the Brandon Community band rehearsal, we got Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by John Williams arr. Robert W. Smith. There's a miserable bassoon cue which I will have to play in measures 89 to 91 seeing that we don't have any bassoon players.

    In Bb Major and in 6/8 time the notes are 16th notes and as follows: A G# A Bb A Ab G natural (that's beat one) , A Bb A natural Ab G Ab (end of measure 89)

    Measure 90: F# G F# Eb D Eb (that's beat one) , F# Ab G D Eb E natural (end of measure 91) and just a plain A, dotted half note in measure 92. For the groupings of the 16th notes, in each beat, the slur markings are in a group of 4 + 2 (if this makes sense). The tempo is dotted quarter note = 80.

    I've seen my share of weird runs for bassoon parts or cues but this one is a finger twister for me! and made me sound human in the band.

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