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  • AfroTuba
    Junior Member
    • May 2007
    • 5

    Best brands for CC tubas

    I'm looking for a good 5 valve 4/4 CC tuba that I could use professionally in the future. The only brands I've heard a lot of good from (within my price range) are Miraphone and Meinl Weston. What other brands are worth looking into?

    Price Range = less than 7,000
  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    #2
    Best brands for CC tubas

    You might include the B&S Perantucci and the Hirsbrunner in your comparisons.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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    • AfroTuba
      Junior Member
      • May 2007
      • 5

      #3
      Best brands for CC tubas

      Hirsbrunners are pretty spendy though aren't they?

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      • davewerden
        Administrator
        • Nov 2005
        • 11136

        #4
        Best brands for CC tubas

        Sorry, but Hirsbrunners are pretty expensive. I missed your price range (guess I was reading too fast).

        I will say this, though. I recently heard a very good high school player (just graduated) try the Hirsbrunner against several other tubas. He is starting this Fall at UW studying with Jerry Young and is a serious player. The Hirs. was clearly better than the rest - enough to make his father and him adjust the budget they had planned, which had been about what your is. One of my old friends from the U of Iowa was listening along and his opinion was the same. Thinking ahead to the future, and thinking of how long you will own the right horn, the cost amortizes out pretty well.

        But that's easy for me to say - it's not my money!
        Dave Werden (ASCAP)
        Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
        Adams Artist (Adams E3)
        Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
        YouTube: dwerden
        Facebook: davewerden
        Twitter: davewerden
        Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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        • AfroTuba
          Junior Member
          • May 2007
          • 5

          #5
          Best brands for CC tubas

          Do you know of any websites that show the prices of Hirsbrunner tubas? I'd heard the name before but sort of pushed it aside because I knew it was above what I wanted to spend, and the only sites I've been able to find have been just catalogues with the different specs for each model.

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          • CC
            Junior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1

            #6
            Best brands for CC tubas

            Have you considered buying used? There are many great instruments (especially Hirsbrunners and B&S) that are currently for sale on other forums. Your price range is more feasible for that than buying new, which can get insane in the current market.

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            • davewerden
              Administrator
              • Nov 2005
              • 11136

              #7
              Best brands for CC tubas

              Originally posted by: CC

              Have you considered buying used?
              This is a good option in many cases. There can be a lot of life in a quality instrument, and often it is not nearly "used up" by one owner. Gary Buttery played in the Coast Guard Band and the tuba quartet with me. For solos or the quartet he usually played an Alexander tuba made around 1930. I have recently taught students at the U of MN who have excellent "second-hand" instruments that are 30-40 years old.
              Dave Werden (ASCAP)
              Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
              Adams Artist (Adams E3)
              Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
              YouTube: dwerden
              Facebook: davewerden
              Twitter: davewerden
              Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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              • davewerden
                Administrator
                • Nov 2005
                • 11136

                #8
                Best brands for CC tubas

                Originally posted by: AfroTuba

                Do you know of any websites that show the prices of Hirsbrunner tubas?
                You would need to check with Custom Music, the sole importer in the USA (I assume that's where you are). Sometimes it is not practical to publish prices online. The value of the dollar compared to the currency of other countries is a huge variable. As one or the other goes up or down, it can have a dramatic impact on the retail price.

                Price fluctuations of new horns may also affect the price of used horns, but probably less dramatically and less quickly.
                Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                YouTube: dwerden
                Facebook: davewerden
                Twitter: davewerden
                Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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                • AfroTuba
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 5

                  #9
                  Best brands for CC tubas

                  Another question I have relates to the size of the horn I should get. Right now I'm studying at St.Cloud State with Mark Springer and he suggested that I should stick to a 4/4 tuba. He said a 5 or 6/4 would probably be too big for the playing I'll be doing in the next couple years. I've just finished my second year at SCSU and will be there for 3 more years (after switching majors to music). So I was wondering if I should overlook 5/4 tubas for now.

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                  • AfroTuba
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 5

                    #10
                    Best brands for CC tubas

                    I have considered buying used, but I have had difficulty finding websites, and finding used models of the horns I'm looking for.

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                    • davewerden
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 11136

                      #11
                      Best brands for CC tubas

                      Originally posted by: AfroTuba

                      I have considered buying used, but I have had difficulty finding websites, and finding used models of the horns I'm looking for.
                      Typical retail websites are not usually a good way to find used horns. I would check around on other forums (and post your "wanted to buy" notice), such as:

                      TubeNet

                      OR:

                      TubaNews

                      Also join the TubaEuph discussion list on Yahoo Groups and post your need there:

                      TubaEuph on Yahoo Groups

                      Readership on forums and lists goes down a little in the Summer, but you may still find some likely sellers.
                      Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                      Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                      Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                      Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                      YouTube: dwerden
                      Facebook: davewerden
                      Twitter: davewerden
                      Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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                      • davewerden
                        Administrator
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 11136

                        #12
                        Best brands for CC tubas

                        Originally posted by: AfroTuba
                        ...Mark Springer and he suggested that I should stick to a 4/4 tuba. He said a 5 or 6/4 would probably be too big for the playing I'll be doing in the next couple years. ...
                        There are a lot of factors in the decision. One of them is your own ability/style, and your teacher who sits in the same room while you play is a better judge of that than readers of a forum.

                        Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                        Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                        Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                        Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                        YouTube: dwerden
                        Facebook: davewerden
                        Twitter: davewerden
                        Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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                        • ScottM
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 5

                          #13
                          Best brands for CC tubas

                          If you ar looking for a used horn check out Bass Clef Brass. They have some horns there that might fit your needs and price

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                          • davewerden
                            Administrator
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 11136

                            #14
                            Best brands for CC tubas

                            Originally posted by: ScottM

                            If you ar looking for a used horn check out Bass Clef Brass. They have some horns there that might fit your needs and price
                            You can find them here:

                            Bass Clef Brass

                            They have 9 CC tubas as I write this.
                            Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                            Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                            Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                            Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                            YouTube: dwerden
                            Facebook: davewerden
                            Twitter: davewerden
                            Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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                            • paultall
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1

                              #15
                              Best brands for CC tubas

                              check out http://www.oberloh.com/ in Seattle. usually several good deals, and some excellent photos.

                              An interesting side not: They have done several radical valvectomies, taking beautiful older horns and tearing out old piston valves, replacing them with new rotary valves. Sort of unbelievable but a great idea to put life (and intonation) into an old horn. Check out the photos.

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