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[tonewheeler]

Gig Bags (Miraphone 5050)

Just a tip to anyone considering a gig bag for their 5050. The leather or cordura euphonium Cronkhite bag will NOT comfortably fit into their bag. It doesn't even come come close to fitting the pricey Marcus Bona bag, even if you take out some of the padding (not recommended).

I'm glad I brought my horn to see for myself. I suppose you could technically say it "fit", but it was way too tight near the bell section and seemed to buldge too much on the bottom. Yes, it fit, but I think there is too much of a chance. Even the sales person thought it was too tight.

I think it needs about 2" more to make it work. I'm waiting to hear back from Cronkhite in the meantime to see if they're willing to make the adjustments.

[djwpe]

Gig Bags (Miraphone 5050)

Originally posted by: tonewheeler Just a tip to anyone considering a gig bag for their 5050. The leather or cordura euphonium Cronkhite bag will NOT comfortably fit into their bag. It doesn't even come come close to fitting the pricey Marcus Bona bag, even if you take out some of the padding (not recommended).



I'm glad I brought my horn to see for myself. I suppose you could technically say it "fit", but it was way too tight near the bell section and seemed to buldge too much on the bottom. Yes, it fit, but I think there is too much of a chance. Even the sales person thought it was too tight.



I think it needs about 2" more to make it work. I'm waiting to hear back from Cronkhite in the meantime to see if they're willing to make the adjustments.

This is odd. When I ordered my 5050 from Dillon, I had them order a Cronkhite bag for it. The bag was tight when new, but fits great now.



Note that I did have to adjust my K&M stand, since the 5050 was measurably wider than my sterling from the bell stack to the outer branch.

[pam]

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djwpe, it's possible (likely) that Dillon special-ordered a bag to fit your 5050 rather than simply ordering a standard "one-size-kind-of-fits-anything" bag since they would certainly be aware of 5050's excess girth.

It sounds like Tonewheeler visited a music store (Baltimore Brass? Ferguson?) and tried the standard size Cronkhite (and a Marcus Bonna) that they had in stock since he mentions taking his horn along.

[djwpe]

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Pam, I meant exactly that. Sorry for not being clear.





Don Winston

[Euphdad]

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We have a 5050 that fits very well in the Marcus Bonna.

[tonewheeler]

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I should clarify what I said. It fit, but it was tight around the bell area which was a concern of mine. When the sales person gave me the concerned look, it bothered me more. It was somewhat of a chore putting it in and taking it out of the bag.

I did not preorder my bag like some others (maybe I should have). I just didn't want to take the chance and damage my horn. I think the safer route is just to order it "custom" or made for the 5050.

I really like the quality and look of the Bona but it wasn't even close to fitting my 5050.

[Euphdad]

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I found the 5050 snug in the Marcus Bona but not to where it bothered me. Then again ours was bought used and might have been somewhat worked in. It zipped without a problem and I did not find the bag straining at any point. Truth is I make leather specialty bags and briefcases (one of my sites www.smokinholsters.com) for a living and while I wouldn't take on making a fitted protective case for a euph I do think I understand as bit about fit and construction. Either way I was satisfied with what I saw.

[tonewheeler]

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I received a suprise early Christmas gift via Cronkhite. It was a custom fit black leather bag for my 5050! I am totally thrilled with the fit and quality.

[BrandonJones]

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FWIW, I think that Glenn makes THE best gig bags on the market right now. I can really tell that Glenn takes immense pride in his work, and every detail of the bag is not only secure and safe, but is just gorgeous. They are pricey, but the old saying "you get what you pay for..." really is true here. And, ultimately, it's not THAT much to pay for a case to protect your more-than-likely $5K+ "baby"...

[tonewheeler]

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Any truth to the rumor that leaving your horn in a Cronkhite leather bag over extended periods will cause it to tarnish?

[RickF]

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Originally posted by: tonewheeler

Any truth to the rumor that leaving your horn in a Cronkhite leather bag over extended periods will cause it to tarnish?

I have a leather Cronkhite bag (bought used) and it does speed up the tarnish. It mainly shows up around the edges of the bell, but also other places on the horn. I bought a shower cap (terry cloth lined) and put it over the bell before putting my horn in the bag. I also added some long strips of Pacific Silver cloth (2" wide sewn together) and stuffed it into the inside seams. This helps some too, but not a cure-all. What I usually do is take my horn out of the bag when I'm home and place it on the bed in a spare bedroom. There's a bit of exposed leather in the seams between the padding inside the bag. I've spoken with Glenn Cronkhite about this and he told me there were just a few complaints about tarnish with his leather bag. Maybe he's changed something recently to help this - don't know.

[tonewheeler]

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Thanks Rick.

I took a look at mine and there doesn't appear to be any gaps in the lining where the leather might be exposed. I still think the terry cloth lined shower cap is a good idea and I'll be picking one up soon.

Dan

[djwpe]

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Originally posted by: RickF

Originally posted by: tonewheeler Any truth to the rumor that leaving your horn in a Cronkhite leather bag over extended periods will cause it to tarnish?

I have a leather Cronkhite bag (bought used) and it does speed up the tarnish. It mainly shows up around the edges of the bell, but also other places on the horn. I bought a shower cap (terry cloth lined) and put it over the bell before putting my horn in the bag. I also added some long strips of Pacific Silver cloth (2" wide sewn together) and stuffed it into the inside seams. This helps some too, but not a cure-all. What I usually do is take my horn out of the bag when I'm home and place it on the bed in a spare bedroom. There's a bit of exposed leather in the seams between the padding inside the bag. I've spoken with Glenn Cronkhite about this and he told me there were just a few complaints about tarnish with his leather bag. Maybe he's changed something recently to help this - don't know.

My Cronkhite bag (new in October of 2011) does cause tarnish around the bell rim of my 5050 within 2 or 3 days. Not really much of a problem, since the horn mostly lives in a stand in my practice room. If the horn is in the bag long enough to tarnish, that means I'm not practicing enough



Don Winston

[tonewheeler]

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Thanks Don. I'm with you. If it starts to tarnish it just means that I need to practice more!! Or maybe I should just move out one of my teenagers and give the 5050 its own bed like Rick.

[BrandonJones]

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There's a type of silver polish you can put on your horn and it acts also as a protective coat... I can't recall what it is at this moment, of course... :/ My Cronkhite bag does not tarnish my bell, but years ago I did have a Reunion Blues bag that did tarnish it pretty badly, not just the bell rim. This was AFTER Glenn had separated from RB.