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    Recorders and Microphones

    [UPDATED AUG. 07]
    I have recently started using my Edirol R-09 digital recorder and find it easier to use than the Sony Mini-Disc. The Edirol comes with built-in stereo mics, or you can use an external mic or a line input. It has a recording sensitivity control and can use either automatic or manual recording level control. The recordings are captured on standard SD cards (such as digital cameras use). You can record in 44.1 or 48kHz sample rates as WAV (full digital), or in various compression levels of MP3 (to save storage space). Most modern computers can accept the SD cards, so you can plug your recording right into your PC and grab the recording as though it were just another file. If your computer doesn't read SD cards, the recorder comes with a USB cable you can use to transfer files. Here is a photo:



    The recorder is only a bit larger than a standard cassette flip-box. Combined with the all-in-one Sony microphone, it makes for a very portable outfit.



    I have also used it to record LP's into digital format. I just hook up the Edirol to my line output and record away. This recorder and the larger Sony mic listed below are what I used to record Till There Was You, which is found in the Downloads for Members Only section of this forum.

    Edirol Digital Stereo Recorder]

    Sony makes 2 very nice stereo mics. The first is about the size of a very small hand-held vocal mic and is about $70:
    Sony Stereo Mic, small size

    The other mic is more like the size of a large hand-held vocal mic (it is shown in the photo above). It features a rotating capsule so you can use it easily at 2 different angles and has a wide-or-narrow angle stereo setting. The mic uses a matrix system of figure-8-plus-mono to capture the stereo sound, which is the same system I used to use with the U.S. Coast Guard Band in a very expensive Neumann mic:
    Larger Stereo Mic
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
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  2. Sony Recorders and Microphones

    Dwerden I am gald you have mentiond this as I use one myself. I use it to record the compeptitio and concerts I play in. The records are indeed compact and are easy to use.

    I would certainly recomened to any one of these little gems.

    Aussietuba (Allan)

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    how would you record your concert? would you hide it in your pocket?

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    Sony Recorders and Microphones

    Originally posted by: Euphist

    how would you record your concert? would you hide it in your pocket?
    NO! If the mic is anywhere near you, the recording won't sound right. You need to get the mic out front, not too far away, not too close. Then you will have a good sound. A $20,000 pro recorder and mic will sound awful if you have it sitting close to you.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
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    Sony Recorders and Microphones

    Dave.......

    What are the options for recording myself at home to get an idea of how I'm sounding:

    -to compare different interpritations of my solos
    -on different instruments
    -on different mouth pieces
    -and as a practice aid to record up to 4 individual tracks of my self playing similtainoiusly.

    All the Best
    YDave
    Current Euphs:
    York Eminence
    Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign (Round Stamp/ Globe)
    Boosey & Hawkes Imperial
    Plus an attic of old classics in various states of repair!
    Previous Euphs:

    Besson Prestige (German)
    Geneva Symphony
    Wilson 2900 with Eminence leadpipe
    Sterling Virtuoso (300 mm heavy red brass bell)
    Cortios 167 II
    'Gob Iron': Doug Elliott Euph 104 I 9s (plus a few others!)


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    Recorders and Microphones

    Just recently purchased a Zoom H4n, and I HIGHLY recommend it for recording all levels of performances, live or studio-based. It is the best I've seen for recording brass in particular.
    Brandon Jones
    Principal Euphonium - The United States Air Force Band, Washington, D.C.
    bmjones82@gmail.com

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    Recorders and Microphones

    Originally posted by: BrandonJones

    Just recently purchased a Zoom H4n, and I HIGHLY recommend it for recording all levels of performances, live or studio-based. It is the best I've seen for recording brass in particular.
    Hello Brandon!
    I am interested in the recorder, how much is it?
    Thank you

    Jorge
    Jorge Estruch: Euphonium, trombone & tuba teacher/Euphonium player

    Euph: Besson Prestige 2052-2
    Mpc: ​Denis Wick 4AL

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    Recorders and Microphones

    The current price is $340.29 on my TubaEuph store.

    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
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    Recorders and Microphones

    Here's a link to CNET's review on the Zoom H4n

    CNET review of Zoom H4n
    Rick Floyd
    Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc
    YEP-641S (recently sold)
    Doug Elliott - 102 rim; I-cup; I-9 shank


    "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
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    El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
    Chorale and Shaker Dance
    (John Zdechlik)

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    Recorders and Microphones

    So I've been doing some recordings (duets with myself, solo's, guitar etc..) in the program Garageband with my Macbook. The only problem is that no matter what I do and how low I set the input level the built in Mic distorts like crazy. I would also like to make some videos using the built in camera.



    Would any of these mics plug directly into the Mac using either USB or even the standard Microphone jack?



    The one Dave showed (Sony stereo mic) looked great but I want to make sure it will plug straight in before I spring for it...


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