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  • davewerden
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    • Nov 2005
    • 11138

    Building Strength and High Range

    One strength-building technique that was popular while I was in college (many years ago) was to blow through the overtone series. You should press all 3 valves and start on a low F-sharp at ff. (Or press all 4 and start on treble clef D or C# an octave below the staff, for bass clef that would be low C or B natural below the staff.) Then slur at that volume up and down the overtone series trying to hit every partial along the way. It sounds pretty gross but does help build strength.

    I learned a great technique for building range from jazz euphoniumist Rich Matteson. He would use 2-octave major scales, starting on a low, comfortable note at about mf and doing a crescendo to the top of the scale. He tried to keep the tone quality about the same as he went up the scale. Then he would start a half-step higher and do the same thing, continuing this way until he reaches the highest note he can play. The trick is to keep the crescendo and tone quality as you go up. Because of that, you need to slur the scales - you want to keep the air uninterrupted all the way up.

    As you get stronger and better at doing this exercise, try sustaining the top note longer. Also, when you get to the top note, hold it for a couple seconds and then continue by playing down the scale. That helps develop control of your new-found strength. As you turn around and start down the scale, you'll find that you have more "opportunities" to lose control of the notes. It's much better to have the control to do something flexible with those high notes rather than just getting there and stopping.

    The "Matteson technique" will force you to use lots of air and will build your high-range strength like nothing else I have found. Not using enough air means that the horn is acting more as a megaphone. But as you use more and more air strength, you are encouraging the horn to resonate. Once that happens you will find that your high notes are "slotted" into a real pitch, which makes you sound dramatically better!

    I demonstrate this in the video below:

    https://youtu.be/VTJ4Gb9aBTE

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  • fsung
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 984

    #2
    Building Strength and High Range

    Quick question: are these exercises to be done in one breath? Seems that that should be the case.

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    • davewerden
      Administrator
      • Nov 2005
      • 11138

      #3
      Building Strength and High Range

      Originally posted by: fsung

      Quick question: are these exercises to be done in one breath? Seems that that should be the case.
      Yes, that's the idea. The main goal of the exercise is to get you to use your air effectively, keeping a steady flow throughout the scale. That's why I always slur the exercise - it keeps the air moving and helps you get the idea of increasing the effort as you go higher (because you are trying to create a crescendo).

      If you can't make the full two octaves in one breath, then stop in the middle, breathe, and start the 2nd octave at the same volume you just arrived at. As long as you keep the crescendo to the top it should still work.
      Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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      • Tubatasm
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 18

        #4
        Building Strength and High Range

        This should help with me increasing my range on the Bass Trombone. Thanks Dave!

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        • Snorlax
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1003

          #5
          Building Strength and High Range

          Rich also worked through this with me at the Tubaranch many years ago, and the payoff is quick and long-lasting if you maintain it.

          Chester Schmitz has also said on many occasions that ascending lip slurs are the key to building a strong embouchure.

          Matteson-Schmitz-Werden...I'll heed that advice!! ;-)

          Jim W.
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          bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
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          • qwertre
            Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 30

            #6
            Building Strength and High Range

            Overtone Series?

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            • DaveBj
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1064

              #7
              Building Strength and High Range

              I've been short-winded all my life (even before I started smoking, and in spite of the fact that 1) I haven't smoked since 1972, and 2) I'm a middle-distance bicycle rider. Two-octave scales ascending and descending are not quite doable for me.

              I do a one-octave ascending scale with a hold on the top note, and then a 7-8-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 descent. I start this on a low Eb, and take it up chromatically until I'm bouncing off a high C or Db at the top.

              Then I play through whatever familiar hymn tune comes to my head, starting on a low key and taking it chromatically up until I can't go any higher.

              Another thing I do to work the extremes of the range is to do a 5-8 (hold)-5-3-1 and on down into the pedal range. On a good night I can start from a high Bb and go to and hold a high Eb. The Eb ain't pretty, but if I can do that, I should be to do a Db that's sort of pretty.

              One of my tuba-playing friends in the community band is always challenging me on pedal notes. It will be interesting how that works out after the Schiller arrives.





              David Bjornstad

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              • TomErvin
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 7

                #8
                Building Strength and High Range

                Try it faster, the scales part, hustle. I'd like to suggest my book, "Rangebuilding on the Trombone," which will be just fine for euphs also. $8, heck, why not?

                The book addresses range, accuracy, endurance, agility, flexibility and more.

                Now, I did use Concert Treble Clef for the high stuff in that book, not Bflat treble. You'll manage.

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                • ChristianeSparkle
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 366

                  #9
                  Just double checking, so basically, I try to slur from the low Bb chromatically up as high as I can, try to hold the highest hold with the same quality, then slur back down?
                  "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"

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                  • davewerden
                    Administrator
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 11138

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ChristianeSparkle View Post
                    Just double checking, so basically, I try to slur from the low Bb chromatically up as high as I can, try to hold the highest hold with the same quality, then slur back down?
                    Not exactly. The very first exercise I mention is not a scale - you just blow through all the notes you can get with one fingering. But the scale exercise is a normal, major scale. The key ingredient there is to crescendo toward the top. If coming back down is too much for your air supply, then just finish at the top note.
                    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
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                    • ChristianeSparkle
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 366

                      #11
                      Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                      Not exactly. The very first exercise I mention is not a scale - you just blow through all the notes you can get with one fingering. But the scale exercise is a normal, major scale. The key ingredient there is to crescendo toward the top. If coming back down is too much for your air supply, then just finish at the top note.
                      Oh, I misread it!

                      So

                      1) 1st exercise is the strength building one where you hold down 3 valves and blow through all the notes.

                      2) 2nd is the Matteson Technique, involves playing 2 octaves of a major scale upwards, while doing a crescendo. So there's no need to play every chromatic notes while going up. I am guessing the following means playing the next major scale?
                      Then he would start a half-step higher and do the same thing
                      is that correct?

                      Thank you so much, sir!
                      "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"

                      Euph: Yamaha 642II Neo - 千歌音
                      Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL

                      https://soundcloud.com/ashsparkle_chika
                      https://www.youtube.com/user/AshTSparkle/

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                      • davewerden
                        Administrator
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 11138

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ChristianeSparkle View Post
                        Oh, I misread it!

                        So

                        1) 1st exercise is the strength building one where you hold down 3 valves and blow through all the notes.

                        2) 2nd is the Matteson Technique, involves playing 2 octaves of a major scale upwards, while doing a crescendo. So there's no need to play every chromatic notes while going up. I am guessing the following means playing the next major scale?


                        is that correct?

                        Thank you so much, sir!
                        Yes, that's it. For the first one you can also use all 4 valves, which I find more valuable.
                        Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                        Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                        Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                        Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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                        • iiipopes
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 347

                          #13
                          Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                          One strength-building technique that was popular while I was in college (many years ago) was to blow through the overtone series. You should press all 3 valves and start on a low F-sharp at ff. (Or press all 4 and start on treble clef D or C# an octave below the staff, for bass clef that would be low C or B natural below the staff.) Then slur at that volume up and down the overtone series trying to hit every partial along the way. It sounds pretty gross but does help build strength.

                          I learned a great technique for building range from jazz euphoniumist Rich Matteson. He would use 2-octave major scales, starting on a low, comfortable note at about mf and doing a crescendo to the top of the scale. He tried to keep the tone quality about the same as he went up the scale. Then he would start a half-step higher and do the same thing, continuing this way until he reaches the highest note he can play. The trick is to keep the crescendo and tone quality as you go up. Because of that, you need to slur the scales - you want to keep the air uninterrupted all the way up.

                          As you get stronger and better at doing this exercise, try sustaining the top note longer. Also, when you get to the top note, hold it for a couple seconds and then continue by playing down the scale. That helps develop control of your new-found strength. As you turn around and start down the scale, you'll find that you have more "opportunities" to lose control of the notes. It's much better to have the control to do something flexible with those high notes rather than just getting there and stopping.

                          The "Matteson technique" will force you to use lots of air and will build your high-range strength like nothing else I have found. Not using enough air means that the horn is acting more as a megaphone. But as you use more and more air strength, you are encouraging the horn to resonate. Once that happens you will find that your high notes are "slotted" into a real pitch, which makes you sound dramatically better!

                          Keyword: highrange
                          This. ^

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                          • gmck2101
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2018
                            • 2

                            #14
                            about how fast should these scales be played

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                            • davewerden
                              Administrator
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 11138

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gmck2101 View Post
                              about how fast should these scales be played
                              Medium or slow, depending on your air supply. You have to be able to hear the tone/volume of each note.
                              Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                              Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                              Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                              Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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                              Facebook: davewerden
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