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    I suspect the reason these exist is that Besson...

    I suspect the reason these exist is that Besson USA came across a RFP from a college or school district that wanted something like 30 tubas, 30 euphoniums, 30 trombones, --oh, and 5 marching...
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    ahh, I think it's a Blessing M-200. So it would...

    ahh, I think it's a Blessing M-200. So it would have been made at Blessing's factory in Elkhart. I believe that model uses the tooling from the old Olds marching trombone which was highly regarded.
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    It is not a bass trumpet. Besson did not...

    It is not a bass trumpet. Besson did not manufacture marching trombones (which is what this is), but they did put their name on marching trombones from a number of other makers. Probably to meet...
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    contrary to popular belief, there is some small...

    contrary to popular belief, there is some small benefit to intonation in having compensation for notes in the staff - concert B natural and E natural are both very slightly lowered by the short...
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    all sold!

    all sold!
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    That's a pretty tall order. Maybe if you find an...

    That's a pretty tall order. Maybe if you find an identical or similar instrument from the same maker, you can take the valves from it. The cost of repair of such instruments usually far exceeds their...
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    That's too new to be something I know anything...

    That's too new to be something I know anything about :)
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    The bore of the instrument doesn't really have a...

    The bore of the instrument doesn't really have a direct correlation to the size of the receiver. If a trumpet mouthpiece fits, this is usually almost exactly the same size as an alto horn / tenor...
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    Interesting. It thought was explained to me at...

    Interesting. It thought was explained to me at the time as being an "innovation" that was introduced with the GS instruments, but it's possible I'm misremembering or that I misunderstood them at the...
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    The other thing that changed in late 1993 when...

    The other thing that changed in late 1993 when they started making the "GS" instruments is instead of individually hand fitting each piston to the casing, they had a machine that could purportedly...
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    No, it didn't. It was quite a bit later that the...

    No, it didn't. It was quite a bit later that the handrest changed. Might have been late 90s or it might have coincided with the start of parts production in Markneukirchen, but there are lots of...
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    There's a lot of questions packed in there... ...

    There's a lot of questions packed in there...

    -Overall, I like the post-2007 German ones better.
    -between 2000ish and 2007 parts were made in germany (keilwerth-schreiber) and assembled in UK...
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    1993. I got the first one sold in the US as a...

    1993. I got the first one sold in the US as a high school graduation gift in 1994.
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    I think that's a great choice given your...

    I think that's a great choice given your requirements! Enjoy!
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    It's really not supposed to be "trombony" - it's...

    It's really not supposed to be "trombony" - it's supposed to be a horn-like sound. There have only been a few different models of 4-valve compensating baritone made:

    Besson 956
    York 3056
    Besson...
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    Never heard of it but horn-u-copia says this: ...

    Never heard of it but horn-u-copia says this:

    Louis Vitak formed a partnership with importer Otto Giorgi c1906/7, advertised as manufacturers of Meritone band instruments, flourished in Chicago...
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    FS: assorted Shires trombones

    After more than 20 years of playing Shires trombones, I've fallen in love with something different and am selling most of them to fund the purchases of some new instruments. While I know this is...
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    All things being equal, nickel-silver should be...

    All things being equal, nickel-silver should be harder and less prone to dents than any other type of brass. But it's possible that they make it with thinner stock, or that it gets less work...
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    I'd suggest that there might be a reason why,...

    I'd suggest that there might be a reason why, outside of the brass band world where their distinctive sound is an advantage, there aren't many tuba players who gravitate towards compensating 3+1 BBb...
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    fair enough! Let's agree to call it a poor design...

    fair enough! Let's agree to call it a poor design decision. But it's a simplification for their programmers, it does nothing to make things simpler for their user base. It actually makes things much...
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    Well, I know it's a deliberate design decision on...

    Well, I know it's a deliberate design decision on their part, but I don't see how it's useful at all the way they designed it. Tonal Energy does let you change the key the temperament is centered on...
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    Tonal energy has a bug which makes it difficult...

    Tonal energy has a bug which makes it difficult to use in just intonation (or meantone, or anything other than equal). It calculates all the frequencies from where "C" is rather than from where "A"...
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    19th and early 20th century all bets are off as...

    19th and early 20th century all bets are off as far as shank sizes, there are so many variations. I have a few Bb tenor horns that have much smaller receivers than modern small shank.

    Champion...
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    I don't know anything about it but Dave's...

    I don't know anything about it but Dave's thoughts about stencil instruments sound right on. I plugged it into google and found this:

    http://www.brasshistory.net/Whittle%20History.pdf

    Which...
  25. It can't be that old because it has the newer...

    It can't be that old because it has the newer style valve tubing bracing. Prior to the wire across the first and third valve tubing like they have now, they used to use more standard tubular braces.
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