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  1. Interesting. Is this a relatively new...

    Interesting. Is this a relatively new development, or something youíve noticed across the last few years?

    Youíre playing the same setup as Rick, so Iíd rule that out as the possible source.
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  2. Hi Sam, In the time I owned a m5050 I never...

    Hi Sam,

    In the time I owned a m5050 I never experienced this. Can I ask what mouthpiece youíre playing?

    Also, do you experience this when playing the concert F in the middle of the bass clef,...
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    Absolutely - again, physiology makes a...

    Absolutely - again, physiology makes a difference.

    I played a BB1 for a long time, but looking back, it wasn't a good piece for me. I just didn't know enough to figure that out.

    The...
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    Certainly an individualís musculature has...

    Certainly an individualís musculature has something to do with this. Iím currently playing a K&G 3.5D (feels like a wick 4 size) after having played a Doug elliott 106 for most of the last year, and...
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    I'm not sure I agree - Even with Doug Elliott,...

    I'm not sure I agree - Even with Doug Elliott, Going from a 105 to 106 on the same cup/shank combo is a more than subtle difference for me. That said, absolutely, cup volume makes a difference.

    ...
  6. I appreciate the hilarity of that!

    I appreciate the hilarity of that!
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    The Mouthpiece size arms race

    I have spent a lot of time searching for and playing the largest mouthpieces I can reasonably play on, most recently on a Doug Elliott 106. This is in part due to the fact that one of the guys I...
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    Geneva Valve Felt Placement

    I got a new set of felts for a Geneva Cardinal. Does anyone know which felts are for which placement? Bonus points for a photo of factory felts on one.

    Thanks!
    Mike
  9. After a few days of playing the horn, Iím...

    After a few days of playing the horn, Iím noticing that the concert Bb (on top of the bass clef) seems flat relative to both Bbís an octave either direction. That one seems strange to me.
  10. Yeah, it seems like a QC issue for sure. ...

    Yeah, it seems like a QC issue for sure.

    Same thing happened with the Miraphone I had with this issue. To Thomann's credit, they came back to me within 24 hours with a proposed resolution, up...
  11. Agreed. I think if you played two examples...

    Agreed.

    I think if you played two examples of the same model side by side, you'd notice a difference. Obviously Besson has decided that for this model they want to build it with a fully...
  12. Iíll say the finish on this horn is quite good. ...

    Iíll say the finish on this horn is quite good.

    I kind of like the Geneva material combinations. (And I liked the silver/black York combinations). That said, I find the engravings on the GVL...
  13. It is an interesting thing. I would think that...

    It is an interesting thing. I would think that the design of a horn would take into consideration where all the bracing is, and accommodate that in terms of horn response. That said, plenty of...
  14. Yeah, I actually find the gold lacquer a bit...

    Yeah, I actually find the gold lacquer a bit obnoxious, but itís the only way to get the floating lead pipe, as far as I know.
  15. They came with dampers only - I misspoke when I...

    They came with dampers only - I misspoke when I added that they included extra felts.
  16. This makes a lot of sense to me. I didnít mean...

    This makes a lot of sense to me. I didnít mean to imply anything sinister.

    Certainly, this horn, having been shipped to me from Germany, is the finest example of a prestige Iíve played to date....
  17. Dan, It was an m5050 from 2016. It was...

    Dan,

    It was an m5050 from 2016. It was clearly a manufacturing problem on the 4th valve, and they replaced it.

    Mike
  18. I once heard what I would call an "urban legend"...

    I once heard what I would call an "urban legend" indicating that european dealers got the cream of the crop of Bessons, and USA dealers got the rest.

    Does anyone know whether there is or was any...
  19. Iím going to log some more hours before making...

    Iím going to log some more hours before making that call, lest the honeymoon effect be a problem. Although, Iíve gotten pretty good at quickly sussing out when a horn isnít working for me.

    Itís...
  20. Besson Prestige (Gold Lacquer) review/experience

    I'm going to preface this by saying this:

    Those of you that know me know that I like to try every horn I can get my hands on, sometimes to the point of futility.

    That said, I sold some other...
  21. Upon identifying a little plating wear and the...

    Upon identifying a little plating wear and the like, I decided to lower the price to $3,800.
  22. FS: Besson Sovereign 967 with Trigger

    For sale:

    Besson 967 with main tuning slide trigger. Rare find in the US.

    Valves are great - I had a precision alignment done. Because they use harder material than the standard felt, the...
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    Thanks for the clarification, guys.

    Thanks for the clarification, guys.
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    Micah, What is the modification to the horn? ...

    Micah,

    What is the modification to the horn?

    Do you find the C# (treble clef) above the staff difficult?

    Every besson I've played (and most of the british style horns that are sort of...
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    Thanks Sara!

    Thanks Sara!
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