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    Zo 6000 5/4 Bb?

    I saw someone selling this on the local market. I can't find anyone actively selling full size Zo tubas now and don't really know the history of the brand. What's a reasonable range for this type of...
  2. I live in a small urban apartment and I think you...

    I live in a small urban apartment and I think you have basically three options:
    (1) ear plugs [for you]
    (2) practice mute [for you and neighbors]
    (3) making room less resonant [for you and...
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    I saw someone selling one here on the local...

    I saw someone selling one here on the local market. It was a 2960 TA. This was a fairly petite person and they said it was just too big an instrument. I think it's marketed primarily to UK brass...
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    One of the reasons I asked is because the college...

    One of the reasons I asked is because the college process has changed so much. For instance, now schools often have a financial aid calculator that will give you a good idea of what typical aid looks...
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    Thank you! This is very helpful. It's kind of...

    Thank you! This is very helpful. It's kind of what I was wondering. When the time comes is it even worth applying to schools that are out of state? It sounds like it would still be worth it to apply...
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    Thank you all--this is helpful. Sometimes I see...

    Thank you all--this is helpful. Sometimes I see the younger players going to UNT, UMiami, Michigan, etc., and wonder how they do it out of state. I was curious how common tuition wavers were out of...
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    My sense is that more competitive schools are...

    My sense is that more competitive schools are more likely to meet financial need. A lot of the schools I see mentioned here are big state universities that would be really expensive out of state....
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    Competitive schools

    I have a kid who I could see do euphonium/trombone performance a few years down the road. I was curious what schools meet family need in the low brass world. I've talked to people on other...
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    I started trying to play violin with my kids and...

    I started trying to play violin with my kids and that showed me (1) violin is really hard to learn to a good level (and harder as an adult) and (2) I enjoy music. I'd been pretty good on brass...
  10. I think it probably depends a lot on the repair...

    I think it probably depends a lot on the repair shop. I feel like with trumpet receiver the gap is a bigger issue, but I'd be surprised if it goes to $200. It should be a twenty dollar part and one...
  11. A few more thoughts on the budget instruments: ...

    A few more thoughts on the budget instruments:

    -It sounds like there are basically two popular stencil lines, probably from different factories. One is the Wessex/Mack/Jinbao and the other is...
  12. What was your final take on 274 vs 374? Are there...

    What was your final take on 274 vs 374? Are there major differences in sound concept or ergonomics that you'd highlight?
  13. Do you have friends in a community band? What do...

    Do you have friends in a community band? What do they play? The 321 is a good instrument and it will be lighter and easier to play.

    Read up on stencil compensating euphoniums. The Wessex one is...
  14. I don't think it does anything. There's talk of...

    I don't think it does anything. There's talk of it destressing the metal, etc. It's always seemed to me like a super easy treatment to blind test (freeze 3 and don't free 3 and see if players can...
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    Thanks everyone! Still on the fence over whether...

    Thanks everyone! Still on the fence over whether to enter or not. I thought it might be a few people in a classroom, but it sounds like it's larger/more formal, and I am also hearing that many of the...
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    I saw your reddit post. Interestingly, on...

    I saw your reddit post. Interestingly, on trumpetherald there was a somewhat similar case where someone kept pushing Trent to discount an instrument or price match, and he also got fed up and would...
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    IETF 2023 Competition?

    I wasn't sure where to post this. I'm thinking of attending IETF at Emory in June. I'm a comeback player, originally from trumpet, probably at the level of a good high school student (I'm in my 40s)....
  18. Sticky: I took a course in grad school on globalization...

    I took a course in grad school on globalization and remember thinking it's such a mixed bag: cheaper goods for the working class but depressed wages, greater economic growth but more local...
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    I think it was just the 642s. I can't find it...

    I think it was just the 642s. I can't find it now. Yamaha also seems like it sells for cheaper in Asia/Australia. They do seem to have good resale.
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    There's a 642s on facebook in apparently good...

    There's a 642s on facebook in apparently good condition for $3500. I've seen another one listed in that range. If the ebay ones haven't sold, then I'd put the retail lower, maybe 3500-4500. My...
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    Walking bass music?

    I am on euphonium but have a kid who wants to switch from violin to upright bass. I also have a flugabone and have been wondering if I could find ways to play it for background music in jazz/blues...
  22. I actually live in Taiwan too and saw those on...

    I actually live in Taiwan too and saw those on the used market. To me the Yamaha looked like it was in good shape and a great price, but the Besson looked like it had more wear--at least lacquer wear...
  23. Interesting! Someone had said the Schiller Custom...

    Interesting! Someone had said the Schiller Custom Elite IV also seems to be the same instrument. That was this thread:...
  24. I was reading on the facebook group "euphonium...

    I was reading on the facebook group "euphonium players," and someone wrote: "I have an ACB doubler, which they have told me is a Packer 274, which has the same issue, ca. 4 cents flat. For various...
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    I learned to transpose on Bb trumpet a couple of...

    I learned to transpose on Bb trumpet a couple of years ago (go up a step and add two sharps). I use it primarily to play hymns and jazz standards. It also made euphonium and trombone appealing,...
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