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  1. My impression was that the prototype valves did...

    My impression was that the prototype valves did not affect the tone noticeably. The only difference I picked up was that the response did not feel quite as "clear" as with the standard valves....
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    FWIW, when I played on Besson and Sterling...

    FWIW, when I played on Besson and Sterling (before I got the triggered Sterling) I used the following (treble clef):

    F: 13
    F#: 24
    G: 4

    A Sovereign or New Standard is pretty well in tune...
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    Well, gold (colored) trim pieces is one thing you...

    Well, gold (colored) trim pieces is one thing you could do. You can have them gold plated of course. I would think a shop could strip the plating, polish them, and lacquer them so they keep the...
  4. Hogwarts' March - Harry Potter and The Goblet Of Fire Soundtrack

    I guess I should have watched this movie! The euphonium (and British-style brass) contribution is pretty hard to miss.


    https://youtu.be/kATk4jLAr2o
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    Welcome to the forum! It strikes that there...

    Welcome to the forum!

    It strikes that there are two types of tempo problems possible

    1) an inherent weakness at hearing/feeling/recognizing a steady beat.

    2) technical problems getting in...
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    I'm not a Besson history expert, but I was a...

    I'm not a Besson history expert, but I was a Besson Artist from 1980-90-ish. I think the last new Sovereign I received was in the mid 1980's, maybe in 86 or so. On that horn they had used the system...
  7. Sticky: OK, the seller took care of my idea! The price is...

    OK, the seller took care of my idea! The price is now lowered to $3,000 (edited above), which seems very fair for this horn.
  8. Sticky: Update: starting bid lowered to $4,000 - it's...

    Update: starting bid lowered to $4,000 - it's getting interesting!
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    To the seller: congratulations on selling your...

    To the seller: congratulations on selling your horn!

    To the buyer: double congratulations! I have an older student (roughly my age) who bought one of these new and is HAVING A BALL! I wish you the...
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    I was not crazy about the delay, but I didn't...

    I was not crazy about the delay, but I didn't mind the message. People are not inherently patient (although I'm getting a LITTLE better as I get older). And it's nice to know why the delay exists. I...
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    Yeah, I think the floating leadpipe was added in...

    Yeah, I think the floating leadpipe was added in the 1990's or early 2000's. In the earliest examples I tried (I believe I borrowed Steven Mead's horn at an Army conference) seemed to have better...
  12. Sticky: FS: JP Sterling JP374S - 4-Valve Compensating in Silver

    This one was purchased originally in 2016 and the condition is good. There is some plating wear on the handgrip, and there are no obvious dents in the several photos. Includes the cloned version of...
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    Not to sidetrack this thread, but below is the...

    Not to sidetrack this thread, but below is the email response I received the day after I ordered my bag (about 3 weeks ago). I actually thought it was a pretty cute way to make we who are waiting be...
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    It's a little over $250, but the Altieri bags are...

    It's a little over $250, but the Altieri bags are well made. I am using one right now (although I have ordered a Chronkhite bag, but they are quite expensive).

    They have a large pocket on the side...
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    My comment about playing low on the baritone had...

    My comment about playing low on the baritone had to do with you mentioning you might play bass trombone parts on it. The 4-valve baritone will be pretty stuffy down in that range and won't have the...
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    Not sure what to say! Baritone is NOT going to...

    Not sure what to say! Baritone is NOT going to work well for bass trombone parts. Otherwise it depends on where you'll be playing and on the sound you want.

    Check this out. I'm talking about a...
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    The 2280 is not compensating, although it does...

    The 2280 is not compensating, although it does have a 3rd-valve kicker that would help on some notes. But for low Eb, for example, 1-4 is sharp and 12-4 is flat (the same is true for all...
  18. Sticky: The horn is back, now with a lower starting bid...

    The horn is back, now with a lower starting bid of $4500.
  19. Thread: Senior Solo

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    I think the Galliard Sonata No. 5 would provide...

    I think the Galliard Sonata No. 5 would provide ample opportunity. Here is the Allegro Assai movement:

    https://youtu.be/kdv1m2LTOq4
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    Welcome to the forum! We have some very...

    Welcome to the forum! We have some very knowledgeable people here, and they may be able to help. I'm clueless, based on the information you provided.

    Some photos might help.
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    Here are two nicer-looking 3-valve Conns. Both...

    Here are two nicer-looking 3-valve Conns. Both are the same model I played for 4 years in public school and are good, solid horns. Conns hold up well in school use, but the King horn I pointed you to...
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    Here is a Yamaha 321 for under $500: ...

    Here is a Yamaha 321 for under $500:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Yamaha-YEP-321S-Series-4-Valve-Euphonium-with-the-Hard-Case/153646646778

    Notice there is a substantial dent on the 3rd valve...
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    Let me add that you may see some very cheap new...

    Let me add that you may see some very cheap new Chinese euphoniums with 4 valves...which you should not consider. The decent Chinese horns start around $1k for a Mack or $1250 for a Wessex. But there...
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    Welcome to the forum! Your post is just fine -...

    Welcome to the forum! Your post is just fine - we're pretty open about questions and answers here, and our users range from pros to parents trying to get educated on what their kids need.

    The...
  25. FS: King 3-Valve Bell Front Euphonium in Satin Silver - Nice Utility Horn

    If you are looking for a horn for parades and stand-up gigs, foul weather gigs, dent-magnet gigs, etc. you can't go wrong with these classic Kings. They are rugged, play very well, and have a good,...
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